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djm-600 question
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| xmotleyx |
ok .. i know how to use my mixer pretty well. however, i have a question about the effects. I know that for most of the effects the internal bpm counter will be used to be sure the effects are in time with the track. Now, you can alter the timing of the effect by pressing the button which pulls the led to the left or right. This shortens the time or lenghtens it with respect to the bpm clock (one bar, two, four etc). Now why is it that sometimes when i turn an effect on there are two leds lit at the same time??? that is my question
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| tu_face |
good question, i've never really noticed this when i have used them (i take more notice of the actual time display), but i would presume it is showing amounts that are not just 1 bar, 2 bars, 4 bars etc. for example if you have the time set to 6 bars, it would have the 2/1 bar and 4/1 LED's lit up.
this is just an educated guess :) |
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| Scottaculous |
It's because the bpm clock changed after you set your effect timing and the effect timing value now is in between two fixed timing slots.
To see this at work, set the slot to 1/1 beat. Then turn Parameter 1: Time clockwise. You will notice after a large turn, 2 lcds will be lit, 1/1 and 2/1. If you turn the timing back to the original value, only 1/1 will be lit again. |
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| tu_face |
| ah, my guess turned out to be not so educated :p ;) |
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| xmotleyx |
| quote: | | It's because the bpm clock changed after you set your effect timing and the effect timing value now is in between two fixed timing slots. |
not getting you 100% here. maybe because i have had a few drinks ;)
but how could the clock have changed if i did not adjust the pitch? I think i may be on a slightly differnt wavelength at the moment, hopefully not too far off ...
to revise my question a bit: this happens when i first turn the effect on. ie track is playing and then i want to use the flanger and as soon as i turn it on two leds are lit (initially).
going back to your answer i was thinking the same thing as tu_face if i were to manually adjust parameter 1. Could you expand?? |
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| Dirk W. |
| I have a DJM-600 and I always thought that Tu_Face's answer was right too. Maybe we're all wrong. |
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| Scottaculous |
Sorry for the late reply. It was a busy day at work.
I think tu_face and I was saying the same thing. Let me rephase what I said with an example.
When you first turn on your mixer. The time parameter on the effects will be automatically set to 2000. If there is input signal, the bpm will flash 120. (BTW, I should point out my effects is always sent to master channel.) After getting the mixer an input signal with a beat, the auto-bpm will change the flash 120 to a non-flash bpm in an integer form, rounded up. Let's say it's 130. You will notice now the led is lit for 1/1 and 2/1. A flanger at 130 at 1/1 will have a value of approx 1800 and a flanger at 130bpm at 2/1 will have a value of approx 3600. The two leds lights indicate the time value, of 2000, is in between 1/1 and 2/1. If you turn the time paramater knob counter-clockwise to 1800. You will notice that led will only be lit for 1/1.
In short, two lit leds represent a time paramater value in between two set fractions. (1/4, 1/2, 1/1, 2/1, 4/1) |
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| ezbeats |
that is simply because it is between the 2 led markers. like if you have a filter going and sent it to complete a total revolution in 8 counts, but it if you had started this too early, before it could get the proper bpm marker, then during mid-effect when it does detect that is is sposed to be faster per revolution, it then lights up both leds, signifying that its detecting it should be faster...
if you use the djm600 regularly, the best way to use the autoeffect in my opinion is to set it to the 'auto-bpm' effect, and set it to the channel you want. let it play itself out for a bit detecting the proper bpm. you should see it fluctuating between like say, 135.7 and 135.9. as it rarely stays perfectly still... but then once you can tell it has detected a 'darn good' estimate push the led button (the one that changes the range of the bpm detection from like 70-130 or 130-180) and make it so NONE of those are lit. this will lock the current setting, therefore if you are pitch bending a bit, it wont detect it and it will stay at the proper 'darn good' estimate. :D i own one of these, but am out of town to explain it any better... |
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