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tupsox
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Originally posted by xKaoSx
Should I quote your own source in saying that sure he was deceitful- now you're calling him a liar? :conf:


Read through it. While it consists mostly of blatant deceits, Moore indeed lies outright on multiple occasions.

Additionally, the difference between deceit and lying is spurious in this instance, as Moore intends for his audience to come away with an impression that is clearly counter to fact. By intentionally hoping to give his audience a false impression, he is -effectively- lying, even if each individual clause in each sentence can somehow be construed as true.
MisterOpus1
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Originally posted by tupsox
Read through it. While it consists mostly of blatant deceits, Moore indeed lies outright on multiple occasions.

Additionally, the difference between deceit and lying is spurious in this instance, as Moore intends for his audience to come away with an impression that is clearly counter to fact. By intentionally hoping to give his audience a false impression, he is -effectively- lying, even if each individual clause in each sentence can somehow be construed as true.


Damnit! Don't cha just hate it when the adversary lies or distorts things?:

http://www.americanprogress.org/sit...JRJ8OVF&b=45294
tupsox
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Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Damnit! Don't cha just hate it when the adversary lies or distorts things?:

http://www.americanprogress.org/sit...JRJ8OVF&b=45294


What does that have to do with Michael Moore's lies, deceits, and distortions? Looks like you're trying to change the subject. Remember, Kopel is not part of the VRWC, so he's probably not featured in that database you linked to.
tupsox
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Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Damnit! Don't cha just hate it when the adversary lies or distorts things?:

http://www.americanprogress.org/sit...JRJ8OVF&b=45294


I'm browsing through this database. Some worthwhile material. However, alot of the "Fact" refutations of supposed "Distortions", particularly regarding quotes by administrations officials on Iraq, rely on the power of hindsight, which is disingenuous to say the least. At least the source is open about its anti-conservative bias, but i think disingenuous does summarize a good deal of the records in the database. However, rather than respond to this, I'd rather you respond to the fact that Michael Moore is a lying scumbag :)
MisterOpus1
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Originally posted by tupsox

What does that have to do with Michael Moore's lies, deceits, and distortions? Looks like you're trying to change the subject. Remember, Kopel is not part of the VRWC, so he's probably not featured in that database you linked to.


Not really, just pointing out how both sides tend to distort a tad bit for their own personal agendas. The difference, of course, is Michael Moore is a loudmouth and is not a politician with no political power to create laws or enact policies, vs. our Administration who can and has decisively done just that.

Oh, and I do believe I answered your Kopel criticism with a blog website that refutes Kopel's claims in a fairly concise manner. It was at the end of Page 1 on this thread.


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I'm browsing through this database. Some worthwhile material. However, alot of the "Fact" refutations of supposed "Distortions", particularly regarding quotes by administrations officials on Iraq, rely on the power of hindsight, which is disingenuous to say the least. At least the source is open about its anti-conservative bias, but i think disingenuous does summarize a good deal of the records in the database. However, rather than respond to this, I'd rather you respond to the fact that Michael Moore is a lying scumbag :)


"Lying scumbag"?

Sorry, can't go that far. A biased guy with an agenda who's a little quick with the facts and tends to distort to fit his personal views, just like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly? Absolutely.

Your point?
Cyrus King
Thanks MisterOpus for shutting up the fools:D
St_Andrew
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Originally posted by Cyrus King
Thanks MisterOpus for shutting up the fools:D


hehe yeah keep up the good work
speedracer_mec
Good job my fellow conservatives in this post

Good job defacing this truth distorting liberal hypocrite.
xKaoSx
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Originally posted by speedracer_mec
Good job my fellow conservatives in this post

Good job defacing this truth distorting liberal hypocrite.


Good Job? Sorry- all the other posts were pretty much like what you just said- worthless. :rolleyes:
speedracer_mec
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Originally posted by xKaoSx
Good Job? Sorry- all the other posts were pretty much like what you just said- worthless. :rolleyes:

Im sorry Im not a liberal and I pissed you off because I didnt "praise" misteropus.


GET a life.
Also:
We each have different opinions, and feel differently; so if you dont like me i really could care less.


Yeah i have over 2000 worthless posts:rolleyes:

t.t

xKaoSx
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Originally posted by speedracer_mec
Im sorry Im not a liberal and I pissed you off because I didnt "praise" misteropus.


GET a life.
Also:
We each have different opinions, and feel differently; so if you dont like me i really could care less.


Yeah i have over 2000 worthless posts:rolleyes:

t.t


Well if you want to brag about how many worthless posts you have, go right ahead.

Who said I was only talking to you?
speedracer_mec
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Originally posted by xKaoSx
Good Job? Sorry- all the other posts were pretty much like what you just said- worthless. :rolleyes:


Also worthless post?""

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I DO believe he is mocking you.


that was your only post in this thread.
I find that hardly productive.
Read my other conservative posts elsewhere, Im sure I will tick you off some more.
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