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Thousands protest shutdown order against Quebec radio station (pg. 2)
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| starsearcher |
| Aaaaahhhhh okay...well that's understandable then... |
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| DigiNut |
Yeah I meant Charter of Rights, sorry. I thought constitution and then I thought no, that's US, so I said Bill of Rights which is also US, lol :p
I really don't deny that it's trash radio but I'll be damned if I don't hear plenty of other trash radio and see plenty of trash TV. The thing is, this incident with the CRTC is not unique, it's just the most popular. It should give Canadians at least a faint glimmer of understanding of how useless (if not detrimental) the CRTC is.
The CRTC may be independent but they do report to the federal government. I've never liked how much power they have and how poorly they seem to use it; their role was originally supposed to be to regulate the technology but they've morphed into regulating content instead (while doing absolute zero on the technology front). The federal government and the CRTC have always had their hands in each other's pockets, but the "subcontracting" arrangement combined with the Liberals' lack of ability to crack down on any kind of corruption provides one added benefit: caving into corporate interests.
So now our radio and TV is structured around both political interests and those of big corporations. The CRTC's track record absolutely sucks:
They won't allow American cable companies to compete with Rogers which puts a HUGE damper on the broadband internet here. In spite of that, they allowed Rogers to deregulate their service rates based on the fact that there supposedly WAS competition.
They gave their full support of cable monopolies and tried for the longest time to fight Satellite TV.
They helped Bell get into the position of owning virtually ALL the DSL communications equipment so that every competitor must still license through them.
They caved into pressure from the technology giants to classify broadband as an "information service" as opposed to a "communication service" so that they are not required to provide the same quality of service to customers.
They won't allow half the American channels to operate here, despite the fact that the FCC has far tighter regulations on "harmful" content.
They allow "trash" radio stations like CHOI to stay on the air indefinitely - until they mouth off about the Liberals, then suddenly it's a problem.
They give CTV and Global 7-year broadcasting licenses, figuratively stapled to a 30-page directive on how to run their networks. The directive states that they must hire committees responsible for ensuring CRTC compliance and says exactly what their salaries must be and that all their expenses must be paid for. It also tells them precisely how to hire, cast, and portray ethnic minorities within the network and within all of their broadcasts. :rolleyes:
And then they give the green light to Al-Jazeera TV without any conditions whatsoever.
It makes me sick. The CRTC was once the champion of free speech - now they are the champion of Political Correctness. :rolleyes: |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
its a pure trash radio, taking any regional news and amplifying it while calling people every name you could imagine.
Its in French and even if I had extracts, you wouldn't undersand, its ing low level slang. |
what's your opinion of Howard Stern? |
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| PartyHarlequin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
A town in Quebec has also implemented a curfew for anyone under 18. These are scary times folks. If we dont stand up for our rights we will wake up in 10 years and realize it's too late |
Ummm... Toronto has a midnight curfew for anyone under 18 (or is it 16) out past midnight without a legal guardian. |
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| DJ_Ampz |
I agree with malek, the CRTC does have all the rights to do what they did. The station recieved around 100 complaints in general (mostly stemming from a single show). Though they rarely fail to renew a licence, it can be done. Even stations like Y108 have been "bitch slapped" by the CRTC this year for going outside of the codes set by the CRTC and the CBA (Canadian Broadcasting Association, TV & Radio, independent and joined by stations though it holds no real law, just recomendations)
Honestly, if you dont like a radio station, listen to it and complain to the CRTC (first you must complain directly to that station which will forward on the information if the situation is not dealt with) about something they did "wrong" and that station will have to deal with the CRTC.
The CRTC is independent from the Guv.
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"And then they give the green light to Al-Jazeera TV without any conditions whatsoever."
^2 points.
1 - they have had major discussions on what they can/cannot show.
2 - why should they, the station is NOT a Terrorist Station. its "the cnn of the middle east". They aint telling anyone to go bomb the CN Tower and I understand if they do show more graphic immages, but thats why it is left up to those to purchase the station to do so.
Anyways, tis my two cents from inside the Industry.
Ampz
Host of Amplified Radio.com
Radio & TV Broadcasting 2nd year student, Conestoga College.
CFRU, CJIQ & CHYM FM employee. |
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| malek |
Jayx: that curfew you're talking about concerns those under age 16.
And its a special case, because that little town has barely any police coverage (assured by the provincial police aka my employer) and the city hall either wants to get some attention or have no other way of dealing with issue.
Anyhow, that bylaw will be easily defeated in tribunals because its trying to cover matters covered by other existing laws. |
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| malek |
wow wow, diginut, slow down there. Many of the things you stated are either biased or wrong.
AL Jazeera for example, the CRTC required that the cable networks delay Al Jazeera feeds by 7 seconds giving enough time to censor whatever its broadcasting.
Cable networks are not happy because it will require to hire people to do the job and will bring subscribtions costs way up (driving away potential customers if any).
Again about the radio bitching at the Liberals, they bitch about everyone out there, every party without any discrimnation.
Canada has been applauded around the world (except by the US) for its regulations regarding communications (CRTC). It enables us to safeguard our Canadian content and the different nationalities in this country. Don't forget we're neighbours to a beast (aka USA) in matter of communications. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
what's your opinion of Howard Stern? |
he's a funny guy, but pushes it too much most of the time.
if they allow that kind of in the US, then good for him. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
Jayx1, why are you defending them when you don't even know what they were broadcasting or saying?:rolleyes: |
because it shouldnt matter what they were saying. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
the crtc is a tribunal, it is independant. The govt has nothing to do with it. |
Exactly!
These protesters should have spent their day in school learning that (as opposed to being on the hill) - maybe then they'd be protesting in the right place.
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Bottom line is this: Freedom of expression is not absolute. It protects the right for a person to express themselves, but when that expression causes harm to the society as a whole - it must be silenced for the good of all.
This is the basic legal footing that is used when stopping hate mongering, libel, etc. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Ampz
Honestly, if you dont like a radio station, listen to it and complain to the CRTC |
Better yet, just do something completely UNCANADIAN. Don't listen and don't worry about it! (wow what a concept) |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Exactly!
These protesters should have spent their day in school learning that (as opposed to being on the hill) - maybe then they'd be protesting in the right place. |
Actually the CRTC is an "independent body" that acts on behalf of the laws set forth by government decision. So their protests are in the right place. |
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