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Hold on to your wallets! McGuinty bringing back photo radar!
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| Jayx1 |
Just remember...
I DIDNT VOTE FOR THIS IDIOT (thank god!)
| quote: | There are several two word phrases almost every voter in the province has come to hate. Health Premiums. Tax Hikes. Broken Promises. And now you can add one more – Photo Radar.
Several G.T.A. municipalities are urging Queen’s Park to give them permission to bring back the technology. “We could ... put in speed bumps … and it will cost a lot of money,” warns Mississauga Mayor Hazel McCallion, who’s spearheading the movement. “We can hire more policemen, which is not acceptable. The only answer is photo radar.”
Ontario Transport Minister Harinder Takhar assured residents on Tuesday there were no plans to return the hated speed traps, during an announcement about the expansion of red light cameras. But his boss is now singing a different tune.
“I'm not ruling it out,” admits Premier Dalton McGuinty. “It's about safety. Maybe the red light cameras are going to be unpopular. But don't we have a shared responsibility to protect lives?”
Still, he’s waiting to hear from the cities before agreeing to anything. “Nobody has made any kind of formal proposal to us. Until such time, I'm not giving it any thought.”
Mayor David Miller concedes he’s not against the concept. “In places like around schools or community safety zones or the places in the city where [there's] the most problem with speeding … it's a useful supplement,” he muses. “But you know, I think the province should allow municipalities to choose.”
The unmanned vans snap pictures of drivers as they rush along local highways and streets, then send offenders a ticket in the mail. But infuriated voters called it nothing but a cash grab, noting when it was introduced by the Rae government in 1994, 224,000 tickets were issued, netting the province $16 million.
It was scrapped when the Tories came to power.
Photo radar remains a staple of the roads in Manitoba and Alberta, but B.C. discarded the program three years ago.
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And even worse, it wont just be on freeways like before. It will be EVERYWHERE |
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| High on PSI |
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| Elmo-On-XTC |
good. too many people drive over speed limit in this city. I hate when I see cars roaring through residential sidestreets at 80km/h. I've had a few friends in car accidents in the last 3 or 4 years and all of them included either them or the other car involved speeding. Jay, you have to realize that if people in this world are given too much freedom they will it up!
this isn't the best method of doing this...it's kinda sneaky. but imo something has to be done about speeders. You could always do what a friend of mine did...he got his liscence plate to be all zero's and D's....you can't tell what are d's and what are 0's :haha: :stongue: |
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| Jayx1 |
Well what happened last time was that people would still speed and slam on the brakes everytime they saw something on the side of the road. Thats safe isnt it?
Sorry but this is a cash grab and nothing more. Want to make things safer? Have real cops enforcing the laws and make speed limits reflect the road conditions. I find that all too often, speed limits in southern ontario are artificially low. Its one of the best kept corruption secrets in Canada in my eyes. |
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| High on PSI |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC
good. too many people drive over speed limit in this city. I hate when I see cars roaring through residential sidestreets at 80km/h. |
You wont see em on residential streets.. But i do agree with you too many people speed in residential areas.
I personally beleive that they only care about generating another source of revenue... If it did make roads soo much safer before, what did they abandon it? IMO money is the issue here, safety is just a way for them to justify it. |
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| Elmo-On-XTC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Well what happened last time was that people would still speed and slam on the brakes everytime they saw something on the side of the road. Thats safe isnt it?
Sorry but this is a cash grab and nothing more. Want to make things safer? Have real cops enforcing the laws and make speed limits reflect the road conditions. I find that all too often, speed limits in southern ontario are artificially low. Its one of the best kept corruption secrets in Canada in my eyes. |
it's not safe if you don't see something coming (c'mon theres tons of dumb kids running around :stongue: ). I don't care if someone is breaking the law if they are affecting themselves only...but when you're breaking a law that endangers others people i hope they fry.
i believe speed limits in the US are lower (i could be wrong...my conversion skills are crap). You said in another post you wish people weren't in such a rush with their lives!...why would you want to speed if you weren't in a rush? |
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| crazedcanuck |
| I agree with you on some points J, but @ the same time I'd rather more cops be dedicated to hard crime than bothering with traffic issues. |
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| Durafei |
One thing that angers me is that if that indeed happens, it's going to be about the money, and NOT about safety.
Personally, I would simply increase fines/demerit points for speeding, and leave everything else as is. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC
it's not safe if you don't see something coming (c'mon theres tons of dumb kids running around :stongue: ). I don't care if someone is breaking the law if they are affecting themselves only...but when you're breaking a law that endangers others people i hope they fry.
i believe speed limits in the US are lower (i could be wrong...my conversion skills are crap). You said in another post you wish people weren't in such a rush with their lives!...why would you want to speed if you weren't in a rush? |
speed limit on freeways in the US is 65 Mph in some states (105 km/h) and 70 - 75 in many other states (110-116 km/h)
Yes people should slow down a bit but NOT ON THE FREAKING ROADS! Even in the most laid back countries people drive like a bat out of hell. Thats a fact! |
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| Elmo-On-XTC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
speed limit on freeways in the US is 65 Mph in some states (105 km/h) and 70 - 75 in many other states (110-116 km/h)
Yes people should slow down a bit but NOT ON THE FREAKING ROADS! Even in the most laid back countries people drive like a bat out of hell. Thats a fact! |
oh. i thought it was 50mph for some reason. Personally I think 60km/h on roads and 100km/h (which is usually 120km/h if you don't want to get " you'd" by everyone...but I won't be the one to set that pace) on the highways are perfectly fine. I agree it is a sneaky move by the gov't, but as stated I'd rather the police deal with other stuff than traffic. (we all know traffic cops are a bitch ;p) |
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| Jayx1 |
| speed limit on most freeways should be 120 and on most 2 lane highways 90. Many 4 lane highways within city limits could easily get away with 70 or 80 limit such as hwy 7 in brampton etc. |
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| StereoPrincess |
ontario roads are damaged, you can't speed like you can on the I95, that's a sweet ass highway. good quality.
and if they want to put camera's in school zone where you are supposed to majorly slow down, for a good reason, then they should. and you really think the photo radar is going to be set to the actual speed limit? It's not like you step over the speed 1 km and will get nabbed. it will be set for major speeding like over 115 on on the highway.
there is photo radar in quebec, and it works alright, haven't ever gotten a speeding ticket and have went over the speed limit there. |
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