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Tunes v's Techniques (pg. 2)
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| Nite-Mer |
| quote: | Originally posted by benoitfan
Well that's how I am as well and that's why technique is so important to me, both when I perform and when I'm watching others. Eddie Halliwell is my favorite DJ, and I don't often listen to hard trance or hard house and that's essentially what he spins so... :rolleyes:
problem is in the club 5% of the ppl if that much will have an idea of what the mixer's for, so for the masses, track selection will be the most important, no doubt. some people can barely notice trainwrecks and sometimes don't even know it's the DJs fault :p |
I love when a dj can pull off lots of good tricks and techniques, but I hate when a dj sacrifices their beat match trying to get tricky. Lock your beat down and then play around. A lot of new dj's mess this up. That's not directed at you, by the way. Just responding to the perspective. |
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| davepiazza |
On the same note.....
much importance would you give to a DJ that consistently plays new tunes? even if his set really doesnt have any flow?
without naming any names I notice some trance dj's that play alot really really new tunes but the programming and place of the tunes are silly. I am not sure if people even think about this? |
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| Elixir |
| i choose tracks over mixing anyday. its ok that the dj plays technically ok, but but if the records aren't for my taste thats a big no no :thepirate |
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| Nite-Mer |
| quote: | Originally posted by davepiazza
On the same note.....
much importance would you give to a DJ that consistently plays new tunes? even if his set really doesnt have any flow?
without naming any names I notice some trance dj's that play alot really really new tunes but the programming and place of the tunes are silly. I am not sure if people even think about this? |
Part of that is that programming is probably the hardest part. Given practice, most people can beat match. Another reason could be that they don't really know the tracks yet. I think that's a poor excuse to some extent, but could be valid as well. |
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| Millsyy2k |
problem is in the club 5% of the ppl if that much will have an idea of what the mixer's for, so for the masses, track selection will be the most important, no doubt. some people can barely notice trainwrecks and sometimes don't even know it's the DJs fault :p [/QUOTE]
If the masses want it then surely track selection is the most important thing................ |
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| Millsyy2k |
problem is in the club 5% of the ppl if that much will have an idea of what the mixer's for, so for the masses, track selection will be the most important, no doubt. some people can barely notice trainwrecks and sometimes don't even know it's the DJs fault :p [/QUOTE]
If the masses want it then surely track selection is the most important thing????................ |
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| davepiazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nite-Mer
I love when a dj can pull off lots of good tricks and techniques, but I hate when a dj sacrifices their beat match trying to get tricky. Lock your beat down and then play around. A lot of new dj's mess this up. That's not directed at you, by the way. Just responding to the perspective. |
IMO Trance was never really an area where DJ's really wanted or could do "tricks". Isnt this more of a house/techno DJ requirement?? |
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| Nite-Mer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elixir
i choose tracks over mixing anyday. its ok that the dj plays technically ok, but but if the records aren't for my taste thats a big no no :thepirate |
I still like Oakenfold. Even though he can't seem to lock a beat in, he knows how to correct and doesn't wreck very often. His track selection is fantastic. I'd rather see him than PVD who is better technically, but I would way rather watch Armin, who has both. |
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| Nite-Mer |
| quote: | Originally posted by davepiazza
IMO Trance was never really an area where DJ's really wanted or could do "tricks". Isnt this more of a house/techno DJ requirement?? |
Agreed, especially techno, but a bass treble tweek on a build in trance sounds really good. I also like to bring the kick from my next record in during the break of the record playing sometimes. But, I have to be locked on beat and their can't be a clash. I don't bring it in later in the track with a bassline hitting. I use the intro portion to add to the build during the breakdown. |
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| Momonnster |
| quote: | Originally posted by Millsyy2k
So , my question is this : Do you think clubbers in general give a damn about all the smart little technical tricks DJ's use or is it a case of the best records win the day?
Millsy |
Most ppl dont even know those technical things exist, and most people couldnt even tell what good mixing is from bad. I would say its the music selection. Only those who have developed an ear to that are at advantage of enjoying it |
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| Millsyy2k |
| I bought an early mix cd by Armin and i thought his tracks were cheesy, i've also listening to a few of his remixes down the record shop and i wasnt overally impressed with them but you guys obviously rate him. Could one of you give me a link to one of his live sets for download which you think is quality. It might just be the case that i'm missing out on a top DJ through ignorance............. |
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| Nite-Mer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Millsyy2k
I bought an early mix cd by Armin and i thought his tracks were cheesy, i've also listening to a few of his remixes down the record shop and i wasnt overally impressed with them but you guys obviously rate him. Could one of you give me a link to one of his live sets for download which you think is quality. It might just be the case that i'm missing out on a top DJ through ignorance............. |
Not everyone likes his style, but check out any of his live @ Sensation sets. I think 2002 is really good, but I can't remember. And Armin - Live @ Extrema is pretty good too, I think. |
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