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Orbital32
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Originally posted by blazed it
then you are ing idiot and a waste of space. Good thing Kerry is like 95% for sure going to carry california.


Oh, i'm a in idiot and a waste of space for exercising my right not to vote. Do i REALLY have to choose one or the other? No i do not. Most people have to choose one or the other. You either hate kerry or you hate bush. I am not Republican. I am not a Democrat. I belive both have good points in a broad range of topics. So for me it does not matter who wins. Now for me to vote does it actually make a differnce, for me personally? No it does not because either way one of those 2 are going to win. IF i felt strongly for one of the other then i would vote. Since i don't feel strongly for neither i will excerise my right not to vote in this win-win situation. So the only thing i can say to you is shove it up your ass.
DaveSZ
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Originally posted by tribu
If you think about it logically this isnt really the problem. It makes sense that the states with higher populations have higher proportional votes. More people are represented and thus to give a state with a population of 8 million and equal amount of electoral votes as one that has 40 million seems kind of unfair (in my opinion). Also in my opinion, the problem with our current system is that winner-take-all feature of the electoral college. The winner of the popular voting takes all of the electoral votes of a state. Thus is CandidateA wins StateX (with 21 electoral votes) 48% to 42% for CandidateB (10% is reserved for error/non-major candidates), then Candidate A takes all 21 votes. I believe the solution to this is proportional awarding on electoral votes. In this system, CandidateA would take 48% of the states 21 votes, CandidateB would take 42%, etc. This seems like a proper and fair way to keep the electoral college in existence while also making it a more representational system...


EDIT: A certain 3rd party candidate supports this and other electoral reforms, but as I figure everyone has figured out whom I support by now, I wont bother plugging him here





I'm all for scrapping winner takes all.

Colorado has a referendum to allocate EVs proportionally, and I hope it passes.


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Originally posted by Orbital32
Oh, i'm a in idiot and a waste of space for exercising my right not to vote. Do i REALLY have to choose one or the other? No i do not. Most people have to choose one or the other. You either hate kerry or you hate bush. I am not Republican. I am not a Democrat. I belive both have good points in a broad range of topics. So for me it does not matter who wins. Now for me to vote does it actually make a differnce, for me personally? No it does not because either way one of those 2 are going to win. IF i felt strongly for one of the other then i would vote. Since i don't feel strongly for neither i will excerise my right not to vote in this win-win situation. So the only thing i can say to you is shove it up your ass.



I disagree with Bush on the enviornment, judicial nominees, the deficit/national debt, and neocon policies like child torture.

I disagree with Kerry on trade and gun control - though I'm all for strong background checks at gun shows and elsewhere.

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Originally posted by SportTrance
ima actually going to be pissed if bush wins this one, and YES im in texas


I thought you were for Bush?

:conf:
Arbiter
Actually dotn' vote if you're going to vote for bush. Leave the voting to people with a little judgment.
SportTrance
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Originally posted by DaveSZ


I thought you were for Bush?

:conf:


eh, I was before the war but my opinion was partial. I knew his interests, I knew it was more than meets the eye, but frankly the administration blatantly failed horribly.

I'm not a big fan of kerry either, but I know where he stands on the subject, and I know he's not bush. Thats probably the most simple, basic answer I can give. It gets much more complex, but frankly, im burnt out on it all.
tribu
quote:
Originally posted by SportTrance
eh, I was before the war but my opinion was partial. I knew his interests, I knew it was more than meets the eye, but frankly the administration blatantly failed horribly.

I'm not a big fan of kerry either, but I know where he stands on the subject, and I know he's not bush. Thats probably the most simple, basic answer I can give. It gets much more complex, but frankly, im burnt out on it all.


Maybe you should consider researching some of the third party candidates before casting your final vote ;)
EriK_V
tired of people encouraging the younger generation to vote, especially mtv. as if they weren't already competent or would somehow forget. cut the crap already.
mndeg

FOUR MORE YEARS!
lol
tribu
hahahahah that is a great picture
Audigy7
VOTE NADER!!!!
tribu
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Originally posted by Audigy7
VOTE NADER!!!!

Q5echo
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Originally posted by Lephaid
(only slightly hypocritical) ;) Does anyone know when the deadline for absentee ballots is, by the way?

sent mine in tuesday. each state deadlines are different.
this should help.http://www.overseasvote.com/faq/state/
Q5echo
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Originally posted by mndeg

FOUR MORE YEARS!
lol

that is some funny mo**er f**king sh*t:haha:
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