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Muslim cleric: Some wives need to be beaten
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| ShadoWolf |
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=40276
Muslim cleric: Some wives need to be beaten
TV sermon advises husbands of such women to carry rod on shoulder
Posted: September 3, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
In his sermon broadcast on Qatar TV, a Muslim cleric claims some wives, due to their nature, must be beaten.
The cleric's Aug. 27 message to the faithful was translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute TV Monitor Project, or MEMRI TV. The video of the sermon can be viewed on MEMRI's website.
"We must know that [wife] beating is a punishment in Islamic religious law," the cleric stated. "No one should deny this because this was permitted by the Creator of Man, and because when you purchase an electric appliance or a car you get instructions – a catalogue, explaining how to use it. The Creator of Man has sent down this book [the Quran] in order to show man which ways he must choose."
The speaker claims the non-Muslim world is ignorant of the truth about wife beating.
"We shouldn't be ashamed before the nations of the world who are still in their days of ignorance, to admit that these [beatings] are part of our religious law," he said. "We must remind the ignorant from among the Islamic Nation who followed the [West] that those [Westerners] acknowledge the wondrous nature of this verse," he said, noting that there are three types of women "with whom life is impossible without beatings."
He continued: "In America, 6 million women are beaten by their husbands every year. These are their own official statistics. Four-thousand to six-thousand women die as a result of their husbands' beatings. London police, every year, answer 100,000 phone calls and complaints of attacks against wives. In France, their slogan is, 'Beat the wife morning, noon and night, and don't ask her why – she knows the reason.'"
The cleric then defends the practice but qualifies his approval, saying Islam forbids beating anyone, even animals, on the face.
Claiming women naturally want to be controlled by men, the cleric declared, "Allah has created woman, whether Muslim or infidel, so she is happy under a strong man who will protect her and lives with her."
Concluding his message, the preacher explains to his listeners the three types of women who must be beaten:
"[The Koran says:] 'and beat them.' This verse is of a wondrous nature. There are three types of women with whom a man cannot live unless he carries a rod on his shoulder. The first type is a girl who was brought up this way. Her parents ask her to go to school and she doesn't – they beat her. 'Eat' – 'I don't want to' – they beat her. So she became accustomed to beatings; she was brought up that way. We pray Allah will help her husband later. He will only get along with her if he practices wife beating.
"The second type is a woman who is condescending toward her husband and ignores him. With her, too, only a rod will help. The third type is a twisted woman who will not obey her husband unless he oppresses her, beats her, uses force against her, and overpowers her with his voice." |
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| Seventil |
What level cleric is he?
My monk would own him.
Heh, seriously though, that's pretty rough. However, we did have that whole "rule of thumb" thing going on in America for a bit.
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Connor : The rule of thumb here is...
Rosengurtie : Rule of thumb? Wait, rule of thumb? In the early 1900s it was legal for men to beat their wives, so long as they used a stick no wider than their thumb.
Connor : (holds up thumb) Well, can't do much damage with that then can ya? Maybe it should have been a rule of wrist.
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| Dupz |
| I can give you at least 1 person who deserves a beating... |
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| Matty V |
Yet again religion is used as an excuse to carry out inhuman acts on other people.
They think that using religion as an excuse to carry out such things is justification eenough and that people should accept it |
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| Streakfury |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
...Claiming women naturally want to be controlled by men, the cleric declared, "Allah has created woman, whether Muslim or infidel, so she is happy under a strong man who will protect her and lives with her."... |
Who is he to tell everyone what women want?? Not all women are the same, either. So that rule may apply to some, but I'm willing to bet that there are many many more who like their own independance, free from "the rule of a man". Ignorant bastard.
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
... The first type is a girl who was brought up this way. Her parents ask her to go to school and she doesn't – they beat her. 'Eat' – 'I don't want to' – they beat her. So she became accustomed to beatings; she was brought up that way. We pray Allah will help her husband later. He will only get along with her if he practices wife beating... |
That's just appauling. People who are abused as a child (which clearly, beatings with rods would qualify as) grow up to be quite troubled individuals. They may very well be "used to it", but that's absolutely no reason to keep doing it.
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
The speaker claims the non-Muslim world is ignorant of the truth about wife beating. |
Well this ignorant member of the non-Muslim world would love to beat some sense into him. Although, following the rules that actually mean something (the Law), i'm not going to.
| quote: | Originally posted by Matty V
Yet again religion is used as an excuse to carry out inhuman acts on other people.
They think that using religion as an excuse to carry out such things is justification eenough and that people should accept it |
After all my ranting, that's actually what I wanted to say. :p
I just think that the world would be a much better place without religion, and all it's "excuses" or "reasons" for people commiting terrible crimes in the name of it. |
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| Ian^ |
| Pathetic and reversely evolving theory. No person deserves that just cos they're not doing everything that the person wants them to. |
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| Bronze |
c scandaleux
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
voyons donc qu'une religion est comme ça
sont fuk all |
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| Cyrus King |
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AHHAHAHAAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHA.... what a joke |
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| JM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
AHHAHAHAAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHA.... what a joke |
i can say the same thing about the kerry banner that you can get on his site...
>JM< |
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Koran Surah 4 verse 34
YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. |
End of argument. |
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| josh4 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Muslim cleric: Some wives need to be beaten
TV sermon advises husbands of such women to carry rod on shoulder
Posted: September 3, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
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:eek:
From terrorists to crazy clerics middle eastern religions seems to have
more flaws than Michael Jackson. |
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