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About Sirocco's sample pack (pg. 2)
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| Trefall |
Although I'd keep my own samples away from the rips and samplecd archives, I must honor your willing for sharing your own samples. One sample wasn't yours, and you say it slipped in there by mistake, I have no proof you are lying, so I'm not going to accuse you of that. What is honorable is that you admit your "mistake" (well, mistake sounds like a wrong word, because it wasn't a mistake, more an unintentional slip).
Those who are accusing this and that, share your own samples, then come back and accuse him for sharing one sample he didn't produce himself! Djees! |
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| Sirocco |
| im releasing my next pack over the next few days, soo maybe this wil redeem my tarnished image somewhat...but after that im going to try to send my demos out to big fish audio..u never know, u might see my smug face on a samplecd cover with graffiti in the backgroud and a gold chain half my weight ;p |
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| Cryogenic |
Well, i have read just a few of your other posts, and you have been releasing and sharing other coyrighted stuff. I don't know if you posted that as your own, cuz the post gor deleted by mod's and you got warned, but this doesnt give you anymore cred in my book.
And i would have defended myself more than you did, if i got acused of the same. There are similar events around the net, and this got the same scent.
That said, trancenrg68 is an asshat in his own special way, regardless right or wrong in this case.
Cheers. |
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| Sirocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cryogenic
Well, i have read just a few of your other posts, and you have been releasing and sharing other coyrighted stuff. I don't know if you posted that as your own, cuz the post gor deleted by mod's and you got warned, but this doesnt give you anymore cred in my book.
And i would have defended myself more than you did, if i got acused of the same. There are similar events around the net, and this got the same scent.
That said, trancenrg68 is an asshat in his own special way, regardless right or wrong in this case.
Cheers. |
well it was a honest mistake, i did release my fgirst sample pack with 20 original loops and this one has well, 9.
i relaly have nothin else to say. its up to you if u want to hate me for somethign that small out of how much i try to contribute. |
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| Sirocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cryogenic
Well, i have read just a few of your other posts, and you have been releasing and sharing other coyrighted stuff.
Cheers. |
oh yeah, please pm me and tell me what u mean |
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| Sirocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancenrg69
I don't post on here anymore because people seem to take my judgments on other people who bring a bad name to these forums and lash out at me. I've already warned everyone of a few guys on here and almost all of you put me down. Sirocco is a special case. I actually warned many people about him but nobody seemed to listen.
Gather round the fire, I'll tell you a story.
Sirocco, when I first met him on a Efnet mirc audiowarez channel had posted a clip of something he did on the channel. It was a small demo of a track that he was telling the other chatters on the channel is a new track he produced which he was shopping around to labels, which is why only a demo was available for us to listen. He began telling others on the chat how he used a radio shack mic to make the vocals, etc.. Well when i copy pasted the link i noticed the track was a ferry corsten remix of a new F Massif track. So i private messaged him with the intent to expose him. First i played it cool and told him his demo rocked. He then continued in detail mind you to explain how he came up with the vocals using a radio shack mic, and other elaborate production techniques. Well I couldn't believe someone could lie like this, truely scary, yet sad, well then i told him i had a demo for him, so what i did was take the full mp3 of the ferry corsten remix and relabeled it as DJ RipOff, and sent it to him. Obviously once he heard the track he knew I knew he was full of , in which case he didnt respond and ultimately left the channel.
I had seen him on various chat mirc audio channels before and he would post clips of tracks he diud and they were amazing. I thought he was Sirocco , the producer behind the Solar Stone/Sirocco track- Destination, which is what he implied he was.
Flash to the future, I was talking to a friend and i was mentioning him and he told me a story very similiar to the one i just told you about how he sent my friend a track, and later my friend realized it was a track by another artist signed to a label. When he confronted Sirocco, he said that his track was stolen off his ftp by this producer and signed.
Now the packs he makes are basically just kicks he took from sample cds and tracks as you just found out the hard way. I recognized a few kicks and loops from sample cds i have, considering a i have like 300 there arent many loops that can get by me. You can still use his loops that he takes credit too as they are all taken from sample cds and are free to use.
It's sad in a way, maybe he has good intentions by lying, maybe just wants to be a part of a community, hes only 17, if he wants to be a great producer one day hes gotta be himself and start working hard and actually taking it one step at a time. There are alot of kids on these forums who want pro sounding tracks after a few weeks. it's doesnt work like that, it takes years of hard work to become a great producer. It's a learning process and i see alot of kids out there asking the wrong questions, or buying the expensive synths thinking it'll make them a better producer. The internet is a immense universe of knowledge, tapping into its resources can yield incredible results.
http://www.theprojectstudiohandbook.com/directory.htm
this is a great way to spend your free time. print out these articles and read, make production a 8th course at school. study it like you would study anything else. if u enjoy it, you'll understand it, and you'll benefit from it. peace |
if i ever go to mirc my nick is "elekid" and i really dont understand your case still..i think people read this and beleive it...u alway shad something against me, i don tknow why, but always. it doenst make much sense to me that i would meet u in one of hte the 10,000+ mirc cchats,w e be on at the same time, and i sent u a popular track and clal it my own. even if i was an idiot, i wouldnt do that. |
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| Sirocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancenrg69
Now the packs he makes are basically just kicks he took from sample cds and tracks as you just found out the hard way. I recognized a few kicks and loops from sample cds i have, considering a i have like 300 there arent many loops that can get by me. You can still use his loops that he takes credit too as they are all taken from sample cds and are free to use.
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You ing asshat, now uve taken it too far. DO NOT makle accusations like this, as ive made these kicks and god the cubase files to prove a lot of them, even ask etherium. kicks are something that take a lot of time,. and is a skill ive been trying to perfect in the last 2 years. now u belittling the one thing io find myself good at, since i can tmake tracks for , is something i just cant let you do. |
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| Derosas |
| I appreciate Sirocco's generousity. Who cares if one sample isn't his? I know I won't get a track signed so I don't have to worry about using a cool sample from someone else's track. Unless you make money off it, no one will care. And if for some reason the track does get signed, I'd just go back to the project and take it out. Screw drama and just make music. |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derosas
I appreciate Sirocco's generousity. Who cares if one sample isn't his? |
If one sample isn't his, then it's possible that...... |
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| Sirocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
If one sample isn't his, then it's possible that...... |
now your using the illusion of realitivty to get people to go against me? you had to make a thread dedicated to me? im honered. i think i have said enoug with my several replies. please, let it go ;/ |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sirocco
now your using the illusion of realitivty to get people to go against me? you had to make a thread dedicated to me? im honered. i think i have said enoug with my several replies. please, let it go ;/ |
Illusion of "realitivty"? What I'm doing is letting people see the same thought process that went through my head. If one loop is ripped, then isn't it possible that some or all of the others are ripped as well? Although not a certainty, it's definitely a possibility, and one that I feel should not be ignored.
I made a thread dedicated to you because, as I stated in the first post, I was unable to locate the one you originally posted. I believe you deleted it after I posted in it, but I cannot be certain. If it was still around, I wouldn't have made a new thread. People would have found out the same thing in the original thread, but that's no longer the case.
I don't feel you have said enough with your several replies. You've given one weak explanation for the use of this loop ("please, i used 1 loop by accident that wasnt mine which I thought was, but I know u guys understand, this is rediculousd"), and said nothing about the rest. "used 1 loop by accident" - what does that mean? You accidentally cut it out of a track and put it in the sample pack? You accidentally ripped it off a sample cd and put it in your sample pack? You accidentally downloaded it and then put it in your sample pack? You accidentally recreated it and the put it in your sample pack?
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| quote: | Originally posted by Sirocco
this is what i poste dinr eply to trance3's discoveries of the loop:
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thank you for spotting that loop now i know why i cant rmemebr when i made it..it sounded so clean i assumed it was not from a library or track-rip, whioch would usually have noiise or artifacts from my experience
i dont want to look like a common thief, y'know?" |
That is NOT what you said in reply. Do you want me to post what you really said? |
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| moth |
Hahaha! this is so classic!
Oops, the sample fell off the CD onto my hard drive, into my work folder and i renamed it to fit the sample pack naming scheme. Woopsy!
haha, more more! |
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