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9-11 And The Smoking Gun (pg. 8)
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
none of those engineers (that we have been able to find) are licensed engineers. and who gives a about architects? what would they know? |
LOL, are you ing retarded? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
LOL, are you ing retarded? |
no. not at all. if architects were that qualified then we wouldnt need civil engineers would we? :rolleyes:
go on. ask colonel all about them before you give undue respect to that profession. either way, theyre certainly not qualified to calculate the reasons for collapse. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| Oh no, architect only design those structures to meet specific requirements. Wow, just wow. Your reasoning is more ridiculous than I thought lol. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Oh no, architect only design those structures to meet specific requirements. Wow, just wow. Your reasoning is more ridiculous than I thought lol. |
an architect's central role is the manager of the real experts, the structural and mechanical engineers. architects do not possess the same knowledge of mathematics and physical sciences. its as simple as that. they do not have the expertise.
and youre LOLing at my "reasoning"??? that's pretty funny given your tribute thread to that CT nutcase a few threads down :p |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
an architect's central role is the manager of the real experts, the structural and mechanical engineers. architects do not possess the same knowledge of mathematics and physical sciences. its as simple as that. they do not have the expertise. |
And physicist have far more knowledge or mathematics and physical science than engineers btw ;). I don't know how familiar you are with engineering and natural sciences, but engineering is stupid grunt work. They're not exactly the brightest people. Not that I'm saying there aren't any, what I'm saying is engineering requires far less intelligence and a lot more redundant, repetitive, boring, and laborious number chrunching and routine.
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and youre LOLing at my "reasoning"??? that's pretty funny given your tribute thread to that CT nutcase a few threads down :p |
Ah yes, the "nut case." I find it rather disgusting that some people would on a simple thread dedicated to his memory as he recently passed away. I'm not necessarily lumping you in that bunch, but don't you think that's rather low and pathetic? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
And physicist have far more knowledge or mathematics and physical science than engineers btw ;). |
yes, but they're have specific limitations. buildings falling down are certainly outside the expertise of a physicist!
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I don't know how familiar you are with engineering and natural sciences, but engineering is stupid grunt work. They're not exactly the brightest people. Not that I'm saying there aren't any, what I'm saying is engineering requires far less intelligence and a lot more redundant, repetitive, boring, and laborious number chrunching and routine. |
but theyre still the only ones that are qualified in this context!
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Ah yes, the "nut case." I find it rather disgusting that some people would on a simple thread dedicated to his memory as he recently passed away. I'm not necessarily lumping you in that bunch, but don't you think that's rather low and pathetic? |
i dont believe in avoiding a topic simply because someone has died. i dont think we owe the dead anything at all, i judge someone by their life's deeds. im not about to gloss over someone who isnt with us any more. if trancer hadn't posted that video i wouldnt have posted at all, but the vid was so bad it just forced me back in ;)
so no, i dont think its pathetic. anymore than you would think it was pathetic if people criticised bush after the fact ;) |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
so no, i dont think its pathetic. anymore than you would think it was pathetic if people criticised bush after the fact ;) |
As much as I despise Bush, I wouldn't go pissing on his grave at his funeral. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Oh no, architect only design those structures to meet specific requirements. Wow, just wow. Your reasoning is more ridiculous than I thought lol. |
have you ever seen what people learn in a school of architecture?
its a glorified art degree..... they draw lots of abstract shaped buildings, and make nice scale models..... they are concept people. In fact, if it weren't for architects, we wouldn't need civil engineers. if it were up to us, we would have designed one structure and just replicated it everywhere. architects come up with all sorts of messed up forms and shapes of buildings that require engineers to figure out how to make them not collapse.....
the only thing an architect is qualified to comment on is how ugly a building looks. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
have you ever seen what people learn in a school of architecture?
its a glorified art degree..... they draw lots of abstract shaped buildings, and make nice scale models..... they are concept people. In fact, if it weren't for architects, we wouldn't need civil engineers. if it were up to us, we would have designed one structure and just replicated it everywhere. architects come up with all sorts of messed up forms and shapes of buildings that require engineers to figure out how to make them not collapse.....
the only thing an architect is qualified to comment on is how ugly a building looks. |
Both of my parents are architects. I'm not exactly ignorant about what they do for a living. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Both of my parents are architects. I'm not exactly ignorant about what they do for a living. |
you must have done alot of finger painting as a child:D |
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| culorut |
Talk about this thread hitting an all time low.
PKC and Colonel believe architects are not bright people? LOL.
No wonder they still believe in the official fairy tale story, they are both ignorant and well....idiots.
(regardless of which degree's, education and certifications they possess) |
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| Trancer-X |
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