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Scarry stuff I've just learned about food and drug industries
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| starsearcher |
So it's a Saturday afternoon and I was just browsing some channels on TV before doing homework and I ran across this show that scarred me to my very soul :nervous:
This guy was essentially advertising his own book that was called something like "Natural medicines they don't want you to know about" - and although I'm not a huge believer in that extreme, it's what he was uncovering about the US laws and Food & Drug Administration (FDA) that dropped my jaw to the ground. I mean it was REALLY SCARRY STUFF! And it's not something that I couldn't really figure out on my own it's just the depth it goes to is just incredible.
Some of the things he was saying - natural medicines can't be called medicines and you can't say that it cures something because according to FDA laws only drugs can cure something and if you are selling it as a drug then you are selling it without a permit. To get a drug approved in the US by the FDA costs over $800,000,000!!!
The FDA and the drug industry don't want you to get healthy, they don't have to cure anything, and essentially they don't want any "magic" cures because they want you to pop those drugs all your life - the only way they make money. If there's a cure - the entire industry will be wiped out.
When it comes to food, foods are being injected with "additives" as they call them - various things that (a) make you addicted to the food, (b) make you fat on purpose - because fat people eat more, and (c) make you hungry - so that you will eat more. Plus there are lots of growth hormones that eventually all end up in our bodies.
Anyways this can go on and on and on and I don't remember EVERYTHING he was talking about but the guy has a newsletter called "the whistleblower" where he exposes stuff and it goes even further.
Oh an before some of you will start the whole collective anti-American chant, we are not doing much better here as we consume a lot of the products from the US and in fact our own "FDA" and ect works the same way...:nervous:
I know it's not news of course but I just had to share I mean it was horrifying listening to all that stuff. |
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| DigiNut |
There's a reason why so-called "natural" medicines can't advertise themselves this way. They're untested, and nobody has any idea what's actually in them or what they do.
Drug companies make a pile, yes, but their earnings aren't relevant to these particular FDA laws which happen to be absolutely necessary. They make a pile on drugs only after investing billions of dollars on research and testing. We don't want a health market where people can toss any placebo into the stores and pass it off as some miracle cure to millions of people who will in turn only get sicker. If you want that, just go to a health food store.
I'm all for liberty but most FDA regulations fall under the category of protection of property because they are basically there to preempt fraud. Now having said, the FDA's system for actually determining which products to allow and which to ban, is terrible, and very heavily influenced by lobby groups. The laws are meaningful, but unfortunately, the organization is corrupt. |
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| Jayx1 |
| This is where the government should invest it's time. This is real protection that needs to come from the government. Forget about wasting time trying to alter people's lifestyles, protect us from harmful ingredients in the food we choose to eat. |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Now having said, the FDA's system for actually determining which products to allow and which to ban, is terrible, and very heavily influenced by lobby groups. The laws are meaningful, but unfortunately, the organization is corrupt. |
You said it...
And like i said it's not that i'm all into the whole natural medicine extreme stuff at all. His point about that was a bit on the extreme side as well...it's just that the general industry stuff he was talking about was so shocking |
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| Miss Julia |
| Damn, that is very disturbing. I almost feel like blaming all these health & obesity problems on the FDA. :mad: |
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| Jayx1 |
fat people are fat because they eat a lot. Sometimes there are genetic exceptions but please don't tell me that more people in North America have the fat gene than anywhere else.
Stop blaming other factors. Fat people eat too much and get old and they become fat. Then they drive their SUVs to the mcdonald's drive thru. End of story. |
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| Rocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Julia
Damn, that is very disturbing. I almost feel like blaming all these health & obesity problems on the FDA. :mad: |
fat people are fat because they eat alot! if u don't wanna get fat, don't eat! :haha: :haha: :haha: |
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| Miss Julia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rocco
fat people are fat because they eat alot! if u don't wanna get fat, don't eat! :haha: :haha: :haha: |
Well, as far as the "fat" thing goes.... like starsearcher posted, alot of the foods have certain hormones in it...
| quote: | | When it comes to food, foods are being injected with "additives" as they call them - various things that (a) make you addicted to the food, (b) make you fat on purpose - because fat people eat more, and (c) make you hungry - so that you will eat more. Plus there are lots of growth hormones that eventually all end up in our bodies. |
That's what I was reffering to. ;) But yes, some people eat way too much junk food and don't eat healthier foods than can prevent them from gaining so much damn wait... |
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| Jayx1 |
i think a lot of this is just bull and another example of people trying to blame other people or factors than themselves. If this conspiracy were true than every single one of us would be fat. Why is it that despite the evil treachery many of us maintain self control and a healthy weight?
It's so sad to see how blameless people feel that they are for their own misgivings these days. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| <------ better living through chemistry |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
If this conspiracy were true than every single one of us would be fat. Why is it that despite the evil treachery many of us maintain self control and a healthy weight? |
Do you realize that 70% of Americans are overweight and 40% are actually obese? So no...most of us don't maintain a healthy weight...I mean it is better here...but not down south of the border. And you can't compare North America to Europeans and Asians who are much healthier/leaner eat better overall... |
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| Jayx1 |
| Exactly my point. Europeans are not that way because they have a healthier lifestyle. Not because of some FDA food conspiracy to make people eat more. |
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