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| Radagast |
| Being as how there are no benefits and many disadvantages to smoking, I would have to have the IQ of a sponge to start. |
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| Slylee |
when i was a chronic pot smoker about 2 years ago, i used to crave cigs after i got stoned, so i was pretty much a chronic smoker too..yuck.
thank god i quit. i never was really addicted to the actual nicotine though...i always did it out of boredom rather. when i get all dressed up nice and i'm smelling nice, and i go to a bar and someone lights up next to me, i get annoyed. it smells horrible and it's just so nasty. |
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| Trance Effect |
Newports here, and you know I'll like to quit, i started smoking about 2 years ago only when i was drinking but it turned into a bad habit, and right now a box last me about 3 days wich i consider normal cause i know some buddies that smoke about 2 boxes a day.
I cant do sports like I used to.
I feel slow and every 3 months i get like real sick . |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
Being as how there are no benefits and many disadvantages to smoking, I would have to have the IQ of a sponge to start. |
Unfortunaly, that is wrong. It is not necessarily the nicotine in ciggarettes that is the worst for you, but rather the additives like tar, which make the ciggarettes more toxic and more addictive.
Nictoine has been shown to both suppress the effects of psychosis as well as have give a slight improvement on cognitive memory. Dont be suprised to see smoking snuffed out, yet companies like Phillip Morris survive by producing and distributing nicotine in a newer, more medicinal form, and with probably a new name... |
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| jrbuddha |
| I used to smoke 1-2 packs a day. Smoked Kool Milds...hated non menthol cigarettes. Both me and my wife quit when we found out she was pregnant a little over a year ago. Neither of us like being around cigarette smoke at all now. |
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| Radagast |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
Unfortunaly, that is wrong. It is not necessarily the nicotine in ciggarettes that is the worst for you, but rather the additives like tar, which make the ciggarettes more toxic and more addictive. |
Yeah, tar. Plus the carcinogens, the rat poison, etc, etc. And the money wasted that could be spent on something that doesn't degenerate my health.
Familiar Chemicals in Cigarettes:
Chemical
Found in
carbon monoxide
car exhaust
nicotine
bug sprays
tar
material to make roads
arsenic
rat poison
ammonia
cleaning products
hydrogen cyanide
gas chamber poison
cyanide
deadly poison
acetone
nail polish remover
butane
cigarette lighter fluid
DDT
insecticides
formaldehyde
to preserve dead bodies
sulfuric acid
car batteries
cadmium
used to recharge batteries
freon
damages earth's ozone layer
geranic acid
a fragrance
methoprene
a pesticide
maltitol
a sweetener not permitted to be used in foods in the U.S.
There are more than 4,000 chemicals in cigarette smoke, including 43 known cancer-causing (carcinogenic) compounds and 400 other toxins. So you see, it's much more than just tar, friend. Cigarretes are so toxic that if someone ate a pack they would die.
| quote: | | Nictoine has been shown to both suppress the effects of psychosis as well as have give a slight improvement on cognitive memory. Dont be suprised to see smoking snuffed out, yet companies like Phillip Morris survive by producing and distributing nicotine in a newer, more medicinal form, and with probably a new name... |
So? What does that have to do with me not smoking a pack of Joe Camel's? Nicotine supresses psychosis and improves memory? Do you expect me to start smoking cigarrettes because of this? Smoking cigarretes is good for me? I've got 4,000 reasons that tell me otherwise. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
Yeah, tar. Plus the carcinogens, the rat poison, etc, etc. And the money wasted that could be spent on something that doesn't degenerate my health.
Familiar Chemicals in Cigarettes:
So? What does that have to do with me not smoking a pack of Joe Camel's? |
Im not trying to say ciggaretes are great, or even good for you, but you saying that there are no benefits to nicotine are wrong. There are proven health benefits. Unfortunately ciggarette companies made them as addictive as possible with all the additives you listed to get people to continuously buy them (hey, thats capitalism.) Like I said, I dont condone smoking, but there are benefits to nicotine, just like everything. Theres is no black and white.
Edit: Also, I didnt mean to limit myself to tar, but I just assumed it was understood that tobacco companies pack their ciggarettes full of addictive and harmful additives. Tar is a major one. |
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| Radagast |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
Im not trying to say ciggaretes are great, or even good for you, but you saying that there are no benefits to nicotine are wrong. There are proven health benefits. Unfortunately ciggarette companies made them as addictive as possible with all the additives you listed to get people to continuously buy them (hey, thats capitalism.) Like I said, I dont condone smoking, but there are benefits to nicotine, just like everything. Theres is no black and white.
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Yeah, well I never said there were no benefits to nicotine so I don't see what your problem is. And a lot of those chemicals are there for other reasons too, like to keep the cig burning or what-not. |
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| butterfly |
| i am on and off, more off than on lately. i have made a real conscious effort to not smoke since i have been on birth control but i do still occasionally. i'll smoke both menthols and non menthols but if i am smoking consistently i usally stick to non menthols. though i love the taste of newports, which is what i started on... |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
Yeah, well I never said there were no benefits to nicotine so I don't see what you're problem is. And a lot of those chemicals are there for other reasons too, like to keep the cig burning or what-not. |
not exact, so youve got a weay to worm out of this one, but:
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
Being as how there are no benefits and many disadvantages to smoking, I would have to have the IQ of a sponge to start. |
Let's just agree that were both right and arguing the same side then? |
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| Radagast |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
Let's just agree that were both right and arguing the same side then? |
One benefit. You've sure shown me. I'll have lung cancer, but at least i'll be able to remember where I left my keys. |
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| jrbuddha |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
One benefit. You've sure shown me. I'll have lung cancer, but at least i'll be able to remember where I left my keys. |
:haha: |
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