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rabbitjoker
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Originally posted by DigiNut
Can MDMA really cause even a mild hallucination?


Take a whack then stare at the stucko on the ceiling....
DJ_Elyot
As far as I know, MDMA does NOT cause hallucinations. However, it's pretty much impossible to get pure MDMA these days, so you really can never be too sure what you're getting. For this reason, I don't bother with that kinda , cuz I really don't trust my body to a substance that is of questionable quality and purity.
rabbitjoker
Anything with an strong stimulant effect on the body can create sensory experiences within the mind.
DigiNut
Right, so I was watching looney tunes this morning and...



Damn, I've really gotta lay off those psychedelics!
The Highroller
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Can MDMA really cause even a mild hallucination?


Yes. MDMA is defined as a mild hallucinogen. I've had a few friends who have hallucinated on it before. Granted it won't give you intense trip outs like acid does, though.
DJ_Elyot
Are you sure they were on PURE MDMA? It's hard to get these days... a lot of the time there might be like PCP mixed in, and that WILL give you hallucinations, as far as I've read.
DigiNut
quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Yes. MDMA is defined as a mild hallucinogen. I've had a few friends who have hallucinated on it before. Granted it won't give you intense trip outs like acid does, though.

Was your friend's name Graham? ;)
rabbitjoker
quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Anything with an strong stimulant effect on the body can create sensory experiences within the mind (halucinations).


DJ_Elyot !! See above.
DJ_Elyot
Well, I've read the opposite... that it DOES NOT cause them. But then again, I don't know much, having never tried the stuff. I'm too lazy to look up.
rabbitjoker
"MDMA’s acute effects last from three to eight hours and its short-lasting effects include feelings of euphoria, enhanced mental and emotional clarity, sensations of lightness and floating and other hallucinations".

Scientific American, Ask An Expert, July 5 2001

DJ_Elyot
"The term "psychedelic" may be misleading; MDMA -- unlike alcohol -- does not cause hallucinations, even in substantial overdoses."

- John Dentinger, drug expert

"MDMA does not cause hallucinations and other extreme changes in perception in the way that mescaline does."

- From a study entitled:

A HUMAN PHASE II STUDY –SAFETY AND EFFICACY OF 3,4-METHYLENEDIOXYMETHAMPHETAMINE (MDMA)- ASSISTED PSYCHOTHERAPY IN THE TREATMENT OF CHRONICPOSTTRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER (PTSD)

Michael C. Mithoefer, M.D
Mark T. Wagner, Ph.D.
Principal Investigators
Medical University of South Carolina
Charleston, South Carolina
Sponsor: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS)

Anyways, there's lots of things out there that say it doesn't. I guess it depeneds on how you define "hallucination."

Trying going to google and typing mdma "not cause hallucinations"
rabbitjoker
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Elyot
"MDMA does not cause hallucinations and other extreme changes in perception in the way that mescaline does."


That is the best quote ever...

bwhahahahahahahahah!

"BB guns do not cause injuries and other extreme casualties in the way that nuclear weapons do"

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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