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| Jayx1 |
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Thank God I didnt vote for the losers. What was Mcguinty's ad? Oh yes "I wont raise taxes, i wont cut services either". Sure buddy, sure.
Now he's done both! Deep cuts following the biggest tax increase in Ontario history. Oh and im still waiting for my car insurance reduction.
At least when the tories slashed spending they gave us a tax cut, reduced the debt and stimulated the economy. All Mcguinty is is one big parasite.
| quote: | TORONTO (CP) - Ontario will have a smaller government and fewer civil servants after the Liberals finish looking for savings in every ministry to help fund their campaign promises, Finance Minister Greg Sorbara said Friday.
"Inevitably, in this program review, we will stop doing some of the things that we do now in order to be able to achieve our objective and our priorities," Sorbara told a Bay Street business breakfast.
However, he refused to offer any details about which government programs could be scaled back or eliminated, other than to say the bottom line was a balanced budget in four years.
"It would be foolish and inappropriate of me to set out today as we initiate this exercise, in cash figures and in numerical analysis, where we'll be at the end point," said Sorbara.
"There is one immutable fact: by the budget that we present for '07-'08, this province has got to be in positive territory."
Sorbara said he will conduct a line-by-line review of every program with each of his cabinet colleagues to find savings to pay for strategic investments in health care and education.
The New Democrats say Sorbara also sent "a shot across the bow" of Ontario's Public Service Employees Union by telling his audience every one per cent increase for public sector workers will cost taxpayers $350 million dollars.
The government is saying "if we give these guys a raise, then you're going to get your services cut, so it's setting up a war between the public and our public servants," said deputy NDP leader Marilyn Churley.
"I believe (the Liberals) are getting that message out there that they're certainly not going to be giving a raise to the public service."
OPSEU spokesman Randy Robinson said the union has been hit with "cuts, cuts and more cuts" during 11 years of program reviews starting with Bob Rae's NDP government in the early 1990's, followed by eight years of Conservative cutbacks.
"He's really barking up the wrong tree," said Robinson.
"If the Tories didn't cut it, they couldn't cut it."
Robinson is disappointed the Liberals are following the same path as the Conservatives by looking to cut the size of the civil service after promising to rebuild public services.
"They are basically following the line of attack that gave us Walkerton and gave us the Aylmer meat scandal," he said.
"It's completely stupid."
Churley said Sorbara's refusal to say which services or programs could be cut will lead to more fear that the Liberals could delist even more health programs after they eliminated eye exams, chiropractic services and physiotherapy from Ontario's Health Insurance Plan.
"It's just going to get people more upset and more worried, she said, calling it a "dumb strategy."
Sorbara insisted he wasn't concerned that only one person in the Bay Street audience applauded when he noted that Saturday would be the first anniversary of the Liberal government.
"There are people applauding not only the anniversary, but some of our accomplishments over the first year," he insisted.
"I think we've got our act together, I really do." |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | | Ontario will have a smaller government and fewer civil servants after the Liberals finish looking for savings in every ministry to help fund their campaign promises, Finance Minister Greg Sorbara said Friday. |
By "smaller government" I'm sure they must be referring to low-end civil labour and not politicians and their salaries and their regulatory control of course. After all, the latter are just far too important. |
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| richard raiban |
| gooooooooooo ndp :whip: :crazy: :tongue3 |
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| Jayx1 |
NDP? They would be the Liberals times 100!! We are still recovering from the effects of Boob Rae 10 years later. All we need is more tax increases to fund special interest garbage. :rolleyes:
Sorry but the only government i will subscribe to will end political correctness, trim the debt and offer a sustainable budget. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Sorry but the only government i will subscribe to will end political correctness, trim the debt and offer a sustainable budget. |
And pray tell, what magical fairy-tale government might this be? :stongue: |
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| Nemireck |
| Gr33n party 4 l3if! |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
And pray tell, what magical fairy-tale government might this be? :stongue: |
The closest party out there is the conservatives. They arent perfect either obviously but they are the better of the 3.
I will NEVER vote Liberal. Just take a look at what these 2 Liberal governments have done to us now. |
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| RobbyG. |
| I didn't vote for the Liberals or the NDP and there was NO way I was gonna vote for the P.C...Its funny though that when I was at Wasaga Beach last week, my friend was pointing to some prime beachfront properties that are owned by the Provincial Government...I think that they should sell these properties & put the money towards this deficit that they keep mentioning.They could get millions from some of these lots. |
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| Jayx1 |
| Dalton give up his comfy beachfront retreat? Naaah, why should he when he can charge us a hidden health tax and then cut health services all in the same stroke of the pen? |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I will NEVER vote Liberal. Just take a look at what these 2 Liberal governments have done to us now. |
My parents are staunch conservatives and they voted Liberal. :( I told them, "how can you vote for them, do you really think they're going to be any better than the Federal Liberals?" But noooooo, Mike Harris's cuts were just TOO much!
As far as I'm concerned, there's always going to be some type of scandal in the government - scandals which involve cutting corners to save money are probably the best we could hope for. Far better than the pork barrel and back-room deals we're always getting from the Liberals, pandering to every lobby group on the planet and STILL making cuts. |
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| drewfactor |
I just spent some time in Louisiana and I met a guy who ran for congress and is a campaign manager for the upcomimg presidential election here in the states and his party was the "Libertarian Party." Do we have any such party in Canada? If not, I want to start one. Essentially, the libertarian party pushes for very very limited government (for those who aren't familiar with libertarianism). I find it interesting that we have a political spectrum in Canada that covers social conservatism, fiscal conservatism, socialist (ndp), environmentalism (green party) etc...but no party that pushes libertarian values of limited government, unfettered markets, individual freedoms, etc... I suppose this is what a conservative party should be pushing for, but they always expand government too (just look at the republicans in the states or the history of the Progressive Conservatives in Canada).
Sorry this is off topic. |
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| Jayx1 |
I bet your parents are wishing for the California recall law to come to Ontario. Well hopefully they learned their lesson.
All Mike Harris was doing was trying to control spending so that we would have a better future. Sadly everyone had to contribute. |
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