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Bad Luck (pg. 2)
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| fastmp3 |
man i'm really sorry for your car :(
trust me , you took the right decision , don't up your life anymore , you're a good guy you don't need that crap |
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| Johnny Jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Epicurus
Really sorry to hear that man...hope you can get everything fixed up soon...the same thing happened to a good friend of mine in Monty just last week, except she got her entire soundsytem stolen...1500$ down the gutter...
On a side note, I find it funny how people somehow invest meaning into certain occurences and relate them to otherwise coincidental incidents. Your doing drugs has NOTHING to do with what happened today, as no one is punishing you and no one is trying to send you signs. Not everything has a cause in the anthropomorphic sense. This was simply a stupid random and unlucky event. happens, even to the best of people. Having said that, I'm happy for you that you've made a decision to go clean, although one would think that after nearly dying last week, it wouldn't have necessitated this event to make you realize that.
On a further side note, in case what I've said is somehow misconstrued, I'm not lecturing or moralizing, simply making an observation. |
Well if you're not taking it as a sign,take it at least as a positive placebo effect that made him take the decision to stop using drugs. |
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| Epicurus |
| And I did...Thus, the "Having said that, I'm happy for you that you've made a decision to go clean". |
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| Johnny Jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Epicurus
And I did...Thus, the "Having said that, I'm happy for you that you've made a decision to go clean". |
saying that doesnt mean you made a link between the accident and his decision to go clean,cause a placebo effect is still linked,something causes a reaction even though its not meant to cause any reaction,but it still does,but u mentionned that u think the incident is independant,while clearly if this incident was not to take place,he would never have made the decision,well not now. |
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| Epicurus |
Alright, I guess I'll have to spell out my argument for you in all its logical splendor. This is exactly what I said:
| quote: | | Having said that, I'm happy for you that you've made a decision to go clean, although one would think that after nearly dying last week, it wouldn't have necessitated this event to make you realize that. |
Notice that I said "although one would think [...] it wouldn't have necessitated THIS (i.e. his freak car episode) event to make you realize that". So CLEARLY, I noted the placebo effect as a cause for HIS decision to quit drugs. The fact that I believe that this event was not a sign in any way shape or form (whether it be divine or not) is independent of my (obviously) thinking that it was the cause of HIS decision to quit drugs, as I clearly stated above.
To further drive the point, you said:
| quote: | | u mentionned that u think the incident is independant,while clearly if this incident was not to take place,he would never have made the decision,well not now. |
Yes I believe that this incident is not a sign, but that does not mean that I believe that it was not a cause of his quiting drugs. You're confusing (in this case equating) what I believe and what I believe he believes. |
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| Johnny Jon |
| so we both agree that there's a link between the accident and his decision taking,now i understand ,didnt quite catch it at first,sorry man. (Cant come up with anything else LOL "laughing yellow") |
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| Epicurus |
No worries man...but to be quite honest, on absolutely technical grounds (if we were in a debate for instance), and I had said what I said a couple of posts ago
| quote: | | And I did...Thus, the "Having said that, I'm happy for you that you've made a decision to go clean". |
rather than the full sentence that I originally used,
| quote: | | Having said that, I'm happy for you that you've made a decision to go clean, although one would think that after nearly dying last week, it wouldn't have necessitated this event to make you realize that. |
then your point about
| quote: | | saying that doesnt mean you made a link between the accident and his decision to go clean |
is on technical grounds correct since I didn't state (in my second post) the placebo connection, embodied in the second part of what I had originally said - "it wouldn't have necessitated this event to make you realize that".
So I can understand how you could have gotten confused, and I'll attribute my omission as well as your lack of having read my original post carefully to laziness on our respective sides :toothless |
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| Johnny Jon |
Nice,gentleman's way to save an adversary's ass :D !
but i still believe its a sign though ,with all due respect to dj nacht aka steve,if he didnt started taking drugs,this wouldnt have taken place cause there's a good chance he wasnt going to the motel just to have a good conversation(really man no offense),then again i might be wrong,but i take this as a sign not for the decision he made,but the lesson he learned out of it.But yes it could very well be random,i admit that. |
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| Epicurus |
| I'm assuming you're religious then :p |
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| Johnny Jon |
| oh yeah:toocool: |
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| Epicurus |
It's interesting to see that our interpretation of events, whatever they may be, is ultimately rooted in our metaphysical views.
I guess I'm just going to have to prove to you that God doesn't exist in order to decisively win this battle. Or, i'll just be lazy once again and agree to disagree with you :p |
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| Dj Nacht |
| The answer is yes I was going to the motel to do bad things heheh. |
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