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Who does the REST of the world want to win the US presidency... (pg. 4)
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| DJ Lucas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_B
What a load of crap. Kerry will put world interest before his own, and American interest before the world. not the other way around. Your just falling for the crap bush has been speewing out his mouth. bush on the other hand, puts his own interest above his country and the world. Gimmy a break the war in Irak was to rid the world of Saddma. What a load of crap, its so bush friends could regain control of the oil they lost since Saddam broke his puppet stings from the states 30 years back. The arab nations in sorry to say are not full of terrorist im sorry to inform you. They are full of ppl struggleling to live out there live. And unfortunatly their are a few bad apple(extremist) that use America's greed too push their cause. Aemrica needs oil so they go out and get in with every ounce of strenght, thus interfering with how all the Arab nation country are run. The fanatics blow embassies american civilian Mcdonalds, Anything they see as a sign of Americans. Unfortunatly many of their own ppl die in this. And the only thing the civilians are ever told is. Its the americans Fault. this causes more terrorist to be recruited. because more ppl get pissed and the state. So what does america do they bomb SUSPECTED terrorist camps. more civilians die and more of the same.
example of this
IRAK: Bush invadeds Irak for oil(says its to defend america, what a load of crap) Irak which used to be run by a power hungry dictator who would never alow any other kind of organized military to train in his territory(terrorist); is removed from power and in the process 1000s of civilians die. Now terrorist are allow to flow in through an ungarded boarder and start to affect local opigion to their cause. Irak has become a pool of terrorist activity due to american greed. Spain is attack because it supports America. wow sure protected them.
And finally just 10 days ago a stockpile of explosive and detonation device disappered from and old Saddam regime site. wonder who got their hands on those
WOW BUSH HAS DONE A MARVELLOUS JOB OF PROTECTING AMERICA AND THE WORLD
how can you say that crap |
omg, that was agonizing to read.
the whole "invading for oil" thing invalidates your credibility by itself. you spout out anything the media tells you. stop studying the media and start studying history. the media wants you to read/watch their material so they can make money from advertisements. how do they keep your attention? by sensationalizing events to make you angry (and tuned in). the current trend is anti-americanism and anti-israeli. somehow, americans are blamed for terrorist attacks and not the people who carried them out and the nations who sponsored them. people (especially europeans) eat this stuff up! i watch international news broadcasts often, and i find it surprising that they cover american news sometimes more than domestic. the US is always under the magnifying glass, and anything can be interpreted as a "mistake" or a "bad decision" is sensationalized, yet good things that america does usually isn't covered at all. turn off the television, and pick up a history book. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| ^ Agreed ;) |
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| DJ Lucas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
Sorry to say, but when you put the needs of other countries not above, but on the same level as your own in some aspects, then you get alot more cooperation, bush has had a unilateralist approach to international policy and it has failed horribly. We are WEAKER then when he took office, we have MORE ENIMIES, we have LOST more military personal in 2 years than the last 10, and that dosnt even begin to cover the domestic issues, which bush, frankley does not care about.
You say Kerry would put the interest of other nations ahead of our own.
Bush already did it, its called Iraq. |
right, i'm sure your country puts its interest on the same level as the US's. it is in the united states' best interest for the rest of the world to be democratic and peaceful. damn the US for trying to pursue this goal, right? i just love this "unilateral approach" to international politics. we have more nations with us now than in the gulf war, and your beloved (probably) UN passed all these mandates that sadaam disarm, but never had the fortitude to act. not to mention, that the rest of the world thought he had WMD (yes, you know they did), and who's to say it didn't all go across the border to syria? he sure had plenty of time to stash the stuff away...not to mention all the atrocities that he committed on his own people. an estimated 200,000 iraqis were killed because they didn't agree with him during his rule, not including the war with iran. you take a look at all the facts about sadaam's rule, and you tell me that removing him from power was the wrong thing to do... |
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| sym |
| quote: | Originally posted by born2trance
why the hell would non-US citizens care bout who gets elected??? ur friends are morons |
caus bush starts wars that affect others besides the US. Not the mention that the US economy pretty much effects the global economy, thus in a way everything we do effects everyone else at least in a small manner.
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if kerry gets elected, there goes the end of the world. might as well let terrorists run free and kill everyone. |
isnt that what is pretty much happening now? still no sign of osama, last thing we heard from bush is that he doesnt care where he is. What do we have? Sadam? With no WMD to be found? So that was pretty much an imperialistic invasion.
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GO BUSH!!!!
democrats dont know how to run a country, let alone pick which side of a debate to stick with. kerry's gonna f*ck the world up |
and what exactly has bush done that is so great? A war that has cost lives and cost billions of dollars, with nothing to really show for it except for dethroning a rule who we deemed as unfit. It really was none of our business, since without WMD he posed no real threat to us.
Your a simple minded person who believes everything you see on Fox regarding politics and the government huh? The prime example of your typical Bush supporter.
Another 4 years of him and im moving to canada. |
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| ierxium |
| This is spinning out of control. |
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| j_spot |
I pray that the clinton endorsement will torpedo bush and propel kerry.
he may talk in percentages and figures that the average american doesnt udnerstant, but thats cuz all your money is in bombs and billion dollar stealth planes, not in schools.
I think Kerry would be better for US economy because that SEEMS to be his concern. He can go swat flys later on, first off he wants to straighten out HOME first. Make it safe, make it work, and make it profit. Then he'll go on a hunting trip. |
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| Mike_B |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Lucas
the current trend is anti-americanism and anti-israeli.
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could agree with you more. And its with amazing political tactics that Bush manage to change worlds positive sentiment after 9/11 to this anti-american sentiment. Wow great leadership
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Lucas
somehow, americans are blamed for terrorist attacks and not the people who carried them out and the nations who sponsored them. |
completly agree with you on that one. And i guess my last post completly escape you cause this is what i was trying to explaine. terrorist right now in Irak are killing some americans sure. but how many Irakies die everyday because of them. And im sorry to say but most Irakies don't really have a the luxury of television to informed the of who cause these problem. All they know is Americans invaded and now all hell broke loose. Who do you think they are gonna blame?
As for your other post regarding getting rid of saddam. I also agree that saddam was a brutal dictator and removing him from power is a good thing. however removing him from power without preparing a plan to rebuild, when american troops are already streched to thin, is not very smart. Bombs don't build countries. In time im sure it would have had to have been done. Problem is, Saddam even though in the past had done unquestionable evils, (Gassing the turks Iran and such) was at this point in time really not a threat to America. Maybe in the future. BUT NOT IN 2003-2004. what a ing stupid idea that was.
AND YOU SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO MAKES THESE KINDS OF THOUGHTLESS DECISION
just can see how some ppl can be so blind |
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| cviper |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Lucas
if our economy struggles, so does yours. |
That goes both ways. If any major economy struggles, it'll affect others.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Lucas
the number 2 best-selling book in the arab world, behind the quaran(sp) of course, is Mein Kampf... |
Err, can you back that statement with some actuall data/statistics? I can't claim that I have any idea what the arab world likes to read, but that just sounds ridiculous. |
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| Psy-T |
would someone here care to define what a democrat is and what a republican is?
what spawned this intrest in my head was what born2trance said about democrats, that they cant run a country. well, what makes the alternative party more qualified?
i would especially like to read a reply by born2trance himself |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
They don't have any trouble picking a side of a debate, you're just too stupid to figure out anything more complicated than "yes" or "no."
Do society a favor and retake the first grade. |
Bush might stop by and help him with his reading...
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| ^ Ah! He's holding America upside-down! :stongue: |
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