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Iran: "Death to America." (pg. 2)
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| PHALPAX |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
well, obviously iran has the same right to defend themself as the US have. I agree that it feels safer that the US has WMD than iran, but i still think it is quite narrow minded to say that US could have, but no other countries. |
Let's be mindful there’s a difference between a democratic republic having nukes and a radical Islamic theocracy having nukes. Besides that point, why does Iran need nuclear weapons? The U.S. needed them and still needs them as a deterrent against powers such as Russia, China and North Korea. What immediate military threat does Iran have? And I can say the U.S. isn't particularly interested in invading Iran anyway (Iraq has more oil :p). |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
How many of these wars have we used nuclear technology? How many of these wars have we made threats of nuclear war? How many of these wars have we proliferated nuclear technology? How many of these wars have we use nuclear technology for blackmail or defense purposes? |
so because it is "Iran" it means they cant have it,Pakistan has them and they have Al Quada in the country,Isreal has them,but since they are tight with the US they can have them.A premptive strike on Iran wont solve anything,it'll make a better case for them to actually get nuclear bombs.
Also attacking Iran will distabilize the region even more.specially Iraq. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by PHALPAX
And I can say the U.S. isn't particularly interested in invading Iran anyway (Iraq has more oil :p). |
you are right,it is all about protecting Isreal,and Isreal sees Iran as a major threat. |
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| Spacey Orange |
| let's not forget taht india has them too. the only sensible solution is not proliferation, but disarment, and the US adminstration hasn't done anything or very little on that issue. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
apples and oranges, man.
you, as a western European, should be able to appreciate strategic nuclear deterence. especially when the parties involved have shown the level of responsibility they've had for the last half century. |
As i pretty much said in the other post, yes, i agree, the world is less safe with one more country with nuclear weapons. But as an Iranian i would definitely think i would have as much right to have nuclear weapons esp since you just invaded the country next to it.
as a western european tho, i certainly feel a lot safer that the US have nuclear weapons than iran..., since the US have pretty much the same way of thinking as me..
trying to see it out of their perspective tho, i think they have the same right as you to have it, IE if they are going to destroy their weapons, i think the US should do it too. |
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| PHALPAX |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
you are right,it is all about protecting Isreal,and Isreal sees Iran as a major threat. |
On that note, I'm not in favor of Israel of having nuclear weapons either. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by PHALPAX
Let's be mindful there’s a difference between a democratic republic having nukes and a radical Islamic theocracy having nukes. Besides that point, why does Iran need nuclear weapons? The U.S. needed them and still needs them as a deterrent against powers such as Russia, China and North Korea. What immediate military threat does Iran have? And I can say the U.S. isn't particularly interested in invading Iran anyway (Iraq has more oil :p). |
bah, i wont write the same thing a third time, so read my other posts :p |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spacey Orange
let's not forget taht india has them too. the only sensible solution is not proliferation, but disarment, and the US adminstration hasn't done anything or very little on that issue. |
http://www.indianembassy.org/press_...2004/sep/17.htm
if we were blessed with a relationship with Iran like we do India, then we wouldn't be discussing this.
try stick with your other shortsided attacks on my administration:rolleyes: |
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| PHALPAX |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
As i pretty much said in the other post, yes, i agree, the world is less safe with one more country with nuclear weapons. But as an Iranian i would definitely think i would have as much right to have nuclear weapons esp since you just invaded the country next to it.
as a western european tho, i certainly feel a lot safer that the US have nuclear weapons than iran..., since the US have pretty much the same way of thinking as me..
trying to see it out of their perspective tho, i think they have the same right as you to have it, IE if they are going to destroy their weapons, i think the US should do it too. |
I agree that if I was Iran, I would feel insecure right now seeing that the U.S. is in Iraq and Afghanistan. But honestly, their point of view is irrelevant on the issue of nuclear weapons (I emphasize nuclear weapons, not necessarily nuclear technology). In the grand view of things, there’s no genuine “right” for a nation to have nuclear weapons. Any nation can claim a right for nuclear weapons under the guise of defense. Just ask Kim Jong ll :p |
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| NiteKiD |
Death to America? that is most definitely a threat
especially on the passing of a nuclear enrichment program
wtf are they thinking? |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by NiteKiD
Death to America? that is most definitely a threat
especially on the passing of a nuclear enrichment program
wtf are they thinking? |
I know it's f**kin crazy, huh?
and people complain we shouldn't have nukes in the first place.
that kind of thinking get mutherf**kers killed. |
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| Spacey Orange |
....and what did the US adminstration do to prevent this?
What did it do to prevent further proliferation?
Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't Pakistan, India, N. Korea aquire nukes on this administration's watch? Or was that unde the previous US adminstration? |
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