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What's With All the Spam? (pg. 2)
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| Renegade |
Yeah, see this is why we need our own mod here. Not sure if the election's finally getting to everyone but there's been a fair bit of useless crap posted here over the past 24 hours.
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
How the could anyone still be undecided, especially after the debates? |
Not sure, but it's a fairly sizeable chunk of the population. Zogby puts the "undecideds" at somewhere from 3-6%:
| quote: | | Leaners have been factored in to the results. Without leaners factored in: Bush 46%, Kerry 46%, Nader .9%, Undecideds 6% |
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews922.html
If that's true it's likely to work out in Kerry's favour:
| quote: | Undecided voters tend to cast ballots for a challenger in greater numbers because they are dissatisfied enough with the incumbent that they can't commit to keeping him in office, said David Rohde, a political science professor at Michigan State University in East Lansing.
``If you are not willing to commit yourself to voting for the president, at the end of the campaign you run out of time, so those doubts seem to crystallize and you go for the opponent,'' Rohde said.
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The phenomenon of challengers capturing more of the undecided vote than incumbents is based on voter data from the eight presidential elections since 1956 involving incumbents seeking re-election. Incumbents lost three times: Gerald Ford to Jimmy Carter in 1976; Carter to Reagan four years later; and George H.W. Bush to Clinton in 1992. |
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/new...=top_world_news |
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| josh4 |
its all Dave Piazza and speedracer_mec posting 30 different threads on half-topics and sub-topics.
you guys sux |
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| Itarillė |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Wow, looky at all the logged in users right now:
Dj_Irish, speedracer_mec, xKaoSx, NiteKiD, Shakka, SOLO, tribu, Itarillė, EvilDust, Spacey Orange, DawnTreader, MisterOpus1
Sheesh! I see, so NOW all you newbies care about TA politics, eh? You fair weather political junkies you!:D
Seriously, I hope more of you new folks stick around after the election. The more the merrier here! |
do lurkers count in the ever so dreaded n00bs category as well? |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by xKaoSx
I seriously dont see how someone can vote for Nader- Althought you may agree with all his views- blah blah blah- He is not a feasable candidate to win. Im glad YOU at least realized this - unfortunately many others think they're making their voice heard (and pretty much voting for Bush at that point- which im pretty sure would be 3rd on their list) |
Nader would be a feasible candidate if the centrists and progressives united to rally behind him. Instead, everyone is stuck in a two-party mentality: only Democrats and Republicans may be president. As a result, we have a political system in which corporations and other wealthy individuals and groups essentially fund the re-election of candidates.
If you had to run for re-election to your job every 4 years, and someone paid for you to do so, you would look out for their interests first. The people who voted you in would be somewhere much lower on the list. Both the Democrats and Republicans are guilty of this. I would much rather have a candidate who's first priority is the people who vote him into office. Additionally, Nader has excellent ideas on electoral reform, enviormental policies, and consumer protection. He balanced the budget based on 2002's fiscal tax revenue and provided enough of a surplus to pay off our national debt. He then made the figures avaliable on his website. On top of all that, i beleive Nader is extremely open with the American public and doesnt need a team of spinsters or political skewing to get his point across.
Yes, I did vote for Nader/Camejo this morning. As someone else said, theres much more that the Supreme Court. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Itarillė
do lurkers count in the ever so dreaded n00bs category as well? |
Hehe, oh sure, why not? Whoever said it was "dreaded"? I'd just like to see more folks here instead of us usual suspects arguing about with one another!:D |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Wow, looky at all the logged in users right now:
Dj_Irish, speedracer_mec, xKaoSx, NiteKiD, Shakka, SOLO, tribu, Itarillė, EvilDust, Spacey Orange, DawnTreader, MisterOpus1
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i post here on an erractically regular basis. Since my topics are about 3rd party candidates and other non-partisan topics, theyre generally ignored :D |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
i post here on an erractically regular basis. Since my topics are about 3rd party candidates and other non-partisan topics, theyre generally ignored :D |
I'm sorry, did you say something?:D |
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| Itarillė |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Hehe, oh sure, why not? Whoever said it was "dreaded"? I'd just like to see more folks here instead of us usual suspects arguing about with one another!:D |
trust me, i've been in here enough just reading everything you all have posted... but when it comes to me posting here, i always have to make sure i have my fire extinguisher sitting right next me... |
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| josh4 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I'm sorry, did you say something?:D |
i love that guy |
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| Itarillė |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I'm sorry, did you say something?:D |
brilliant man indeed, josh4... |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Itarillė
trust me, i've been in here enough just reading everything you all have posted... but when it comes to me posting here, i always have to make sure i have my fire extinguisher sitting right next me... |
Or a tube of petroleum jelly, whichever your poison.
But seriously, I found it much easier for any newbies here to come in with a more or less "open-minded" approach, even if you feel passionate one political party over the other. Ask questions more often than making assertions.
After awhile, you'll get to feeling more on stable ground where you can start throwing out wild accusations and tin-foil hat conspiracies, hoping to God some of them actually stick. Of course you get flamed every now and then, but occasionally your accusations and vitriole hold water, and then you feel oh so vindicated!
Hence my daily routine! |
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| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Wow, looky at all the logged in users right now:
Dj_Irish, speedracer_mec, xKaoSx, NiteKiD, Shakka, SOLO, tribu, Itarillė, EvilDust, Spacey Orange, DawnTreader, MisterOpus1
Sheesh! I see, so NOW all you newbies care about TA politics, eh? You fair weather political junkies you!:D
Seriously, I hope more of you new folks stick around after the election. The more the merrier here! |
Shush old man, you know you've missed me. ;) |
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