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Bush didnt win Ohio (pg. 3)
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RaVeRSurGe
Bush = 1337 llama
Andru C
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
if Kerry won and all this suspicion was pointing toward Kerry, i would still want an investigation. telling me to "suck it up" (not referring to you, pyro, dont worry) is just saying "who cares if theres a huge amount of voter fraud in the system, as long as MY candidate won bc of it". what u shuld be saying is "lets investigate it so we CAN prove that its false."


very nicely said... i applaud...
Funshine
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
it could be.... in all seriousness, i want it to be false. i wanna know that we did all we could to investigate the matter and i wanna know that our president was fairly chosen. its not a matter of being a "sore loser" and having to "suck it up". its a matter of me wanting democracy back. if Kerry won and all this suspicion was pointing toward Kerry, i would still want an investigation. telling me to "suck it up" (not referring to you, pyro, dont worry) is just saying "who cares if theres a huge amount of voter fraud in the system, as long as MY candidate won bc of it". what u shuld be saying is "lets investigate it so we CAN prove that its false."


Exactly. If our situations were reversed, and Kerry had won, you can be sure that the Bush-supporters would be crying "foul" just as loudly.
This is not about making excuses - this is about pointing out very real flaws in the current election's voting system.
verndogs
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Originally posted by decibel08
look close and you'll see the story is from the associated press. and i assume you're joking about cnn.

here's the same story in another place

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...voting_problems


Nah, they call it the Commie News Network for a reason :p

Seriously, I just wish there was an unbiased news source I can trust
jdat
As far as Columbus and Cleveland, these parts went to Kerry hands down.

But indeed there was some fraud involved, known of or fabricated but it was there none the less.

DIEBOLD the wonderful North Canton company ( I used to live 5 minutes from there ) well it's not too far fetched to believe that they would have obvious reasons to rig the votes.

Fight the power! Demand to cast a paper ballot!
pyro264jb
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
it could be.... in all seriousness, i want it to be false. i wanna know that we did all we could to investigate the matter and i wanna know that our president was fairly chosen. its not a matter of being a "sore loser" and having to "suck it up". its a matter of me wanting democracy back. if Kerry won and all this suspicion was pointing toward Kerry, i would still want an investigation. telling me to "suck it up" (not referring to you, pyro, dont worry) is just saying "who cares if theres a huge amount of voter fraud in the system, as long as MY candidate won bc of it". what u shuld be saying is "lets investigate it so we CAN prove that its false."


Why would they even mention lawyers when they do not have a case yet? Usually if a company wants to raise money for a cause lawyers are not mentioned until they have a case. What if they do the research and find out they are wrong...... are they going to mail back the extra money that would have been used for the lawyers? I am just worried that some kid (maybe a non-ta lurker) will read this and actually donate money.
Vivid Boy
it always boggled me why people just sit around and do nothing but bitch. TAKE SOME MOTHERIN ACTION! im in the mood to drive down to the white house and hold a rally.
jdat
quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
it always boggled me why people just sit around and do nothing but bitch. TAKE SOME MOTHERIN ACTION! im in the mood to drive down to the white house and hold a rally.


name the time :p
DJ Eco
quote:
Originally posted by pyro264jb
Why would they even mention lawyers when they do not have a case yet? Usually if a company wants to raise money for a cause lawyers are not mentioned until they have a case. What if they do the research and find out they are wrong...... are they going to mail back the extra money that would have been used for the lawyers? I am just worried that some kid (maybe a non-ta lurker) will read this and actually donate money.


im not donating money.... my point is, this private company shouldnt be holding this investigation. this administration should. if they have NOTHING to hide, then they'd wanna make fools out of the ppl claiming this is true, wouldnt they? this would be the ultimate, "OK LIBERALS, U CAN SHUT UP NOW BECAUSE WE JUST PROVED U WRONG". the fact that this investigation wont surface just proves there is something to hide.
jdat
btw if all of you wanna bitch about Ohio why didn't you come here BEFORE the election to campaign for Kerry?


I live here and I campaigned and my county went for Kerry

And don't forget the other 40+% who also voted for Bush ... stop blaming Ohio!

DJ Eco
sorry, im not going to Ohio to campaign, telling us to do that is unrealistic. not "blaming" Ohioans at all either, i just find it fishy that Diebold and Bush are the best of friends and Ohio's e-voting machines were flawed and had no paper trail for the most part. dont get defensive :) and i applaud u for campaigning ;)
Vivid Boy
so drive to washington and rally! bring clubs and other non fire armed weapons and let loose.
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