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Is this a war crime.? (pg. 2)
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| Yoepus |
Its not a war crime for this reason (assuming the guy was not a civilian):
The combatant did not wear a uniform or identifying insignia. That is a war crime against the Geneva convention. |
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| BadBadNeil |
| If it was iraqi insurgents coming into a room with an american soldier they would have tortured him and then beheaded him on tv. I don't see the problem with this at all, perhaps they should have just let the guy starve to death. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
If it was iraqi insurgents coming into a room with an american soldier they would have tortured him and then beheaded him on tv. I don't see the problem with this at all, perhaps they should have just let the guy starve to death. |
Unfortunatelt, this happens to be an execution, and you cannot execute someone without a court of law. this is a war crime |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Unfortunatelt, this happens to be an execution, and you cannot execute someone without a court of law. this is a war crime |
Actually you can, so long as its in a war zone, and the guy is part of a militia or a combatant.
BTW an execution is a death attributed to a trial or some other formality... perhaps the word you were looking for was "murder".
And just to prove it to you:
Dictionary.Com:
ex·e·cu·tion
n.
1.
a. The act of executing something.
b. The state of being executed.
2. The manner, style, or result of performance: The plan was sound; its execution, faulty.
3. The act or an instance of putting to death or being put to death as a lawful penalty.
4. Law.
a. The carrying into effect of a court judgment.
b. A writ empowering an officer to enforce a judgment.
c. Validation of a legal document by the performance of all necessary formalities.
5. Archaic. Effective, punitive, or destructive action. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Actually you can, so long as its in a war zone, and the guy is part of a militia or a combatant.
BTW an execution is a death attributed to a trial or some other formality... perhaps the word you were looking for was "murder".
And just to prove it to you:
Dictionary.Com:
ex·e·cu·tion
n.
1.
a. The act of executing something.
b. The state of being executed.
2. The manner, style, or result of performance: The plan was sound; its execution, faulty.
3. The act or an instance of putting to death or being put to death as a lawful penalty.
4. Law.
a. The carrying into effect of a court judgment.
b. A writ empowering an officer to enforce a judgment.
c. Validation of a legal document by the performance of all necessary formalities.
5. Archaic. Effective, punitive, or destructive action. |
Not lawful according to any internatioan treaty i ave ever seen
Obviouskly, if you do knoe an internbational treaty that says otherwise, please enlighten me... |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Not lawful according to any internatioan treaty i ave ever seen |
its not so much that it is lawful as it is that it is not against the law.
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Obviouskly, if you do knoe an internbational treaty that says otherwise, please enlighten me... |
And obviously, if you ever find a dictionary, please let me know...
:p :toothless |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
its not so much that it is lawful as it is that it is not against the law.
And obviously, if you ever find a dictionary, please let me know...
:p :toothless |
Hey..its saturday knight so if you ever come over to england and find out the closing times of our pubs let me know! |
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| BadBadNeil |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Unfortunatelt, this happens to be an execution, and you cannot execute someone without a court of law. this is a war crime |
I don't think killing animals can be considered a war crime. |
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| auujay |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
I don't think killing animals can be considered a war crime. |
Are animals protected under the Geneva Convention? It would not surprise me if some were (horses, live stock, etc.)
PS - Yoepus has apoint about the uniform. For the geneva convention to apply to a soldier they must be wearing a uniform. This is why captures spies can legal be executed, they are not considered POW. However, I don't think many of the resistance fighters are wearing them. |
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| Dervish |
To be honest I don't care if someones wearing a uniform or not. Killing unarmed people is murder.
But in this case it is hard to know if the guy in question pulled the trigger for the right reasons (that is he belived the guy had a bomb strapped to him).
And it looks as though he didn't. You can't just go around killing people left and right esp unarmed people. I mean what next a man carrying a white flag with half his leg missing.... double tap him just in case? Just incase........ think about it. Why not give them a chance? Why not act in a professional manner? |
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| JM |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
If it were a regular war, |
a regular war???
coming from a war torn country in the early 90's should make you realize more than anybody else that there is no normal war...
>JM< |
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| JM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
I mean what next a man carrying a white flag with half his leg missing.... double tap him just in case? Just incase........ think about it. |
with all the going on, that would probably be a good idea.
what motivation does that one legged man have to keep living? he already dedicated himself to the cause of fighting, and doesn't care if he dies. chances ARE he will drop the flag, and pull out a weapon...
i say drop him then and there.
kill or be killed.
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Why not give them a chance? Why not act in a professional manner? |
:haha: you've gotta be kidding me man?? its a WAR!!! and not a community Chamber of Commerce meeting.
>JM< |
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