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Anti-Bullying wristbands (pg. 2)
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| Cru54d3r |
As ste has just mentioned .. the reason for my difference in opinion between the two bands is due to the fact that the livestrong bands
a) have to be bought .. thus contributing to cancer charities and research ..
and b) cancer affects many people .. even those who have never smoked etc .. whereas bullying is a problem that is actually created (by a minority) .. cancer happens naturally ..
I mean if you took a hardline view of the matter and did everything feasible to wipe out bullying it could be stopped alltogether .. assume for a minute that punishment was reintroduced to schools .. perhaps persisting bullies could be sent off to bootcamp for their holidays (lol ok bit extreme ..) but still the point would be that bullying would ineffect cease to exist ..
On the otherhand cancer cant be stopped that simply .. as such i dont see anything negative in a person donating to and not only supporting but raising awareness to help defeat cancer so hopefully in the future some of us wont have to suffer from it ..
I also think your missing the point that i made with parents tackling bullying with correspondence with the school .. letters dont have to be longwinded .. a personal meeting can be arranged .. bullying has been around for a while now .. its a shame i feel that it takes a band on someones arm for awareness levels to be raised .. as for people talking about how they were bullied .. well i fail to see how yet again that help those kids now being bullied at school ..
fashion accessories come and go though .. as for people standing up and doing something about it .. well what about those who already have done so in the past? are they to be discounted? |
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| Cru54d3r |
On the whole ive probably taken a very pessimistic outlook on these bands i agree ..
The suggestion of anti-bullying charities .. well even if some contributions were made .. which they aint as the bands are free .. once again i feel to see their possible use .. most victims of bullying will never come in contact with a charity to help them out .. I guess that depends somewhat on the level of bullying .. but im sure quite a few of us here had gone through some bullying or knew someone that had .. and most stuck to themselves and didnt look for any help to sort it from a charity .. at best perhaps their parents or maybe a teacher .. |
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| Rijs |
Livestrong bands do require payment, however, even though the anti-bullying bands do not, the awareness that they create may have the same effect, i.e. people donating.
I don't have time to respond directly to all of your points, but I'll say this. Increased awareness will mean that more people will talk about their past experiences (as I've seen happen), because of this, people being bullied will feel that it's not something that they have to hide from people or be ashamed of, in turn letting family members/teachers know about the problem, who can do everything in their power to stop it from happening.
We've all raised valid points, but whereas you're on the pessimistic side of the argument, I'm at the other end of the scale. :)
I fail to see how such a campaign can have a negative, or, as you're suggesting, no effect on the situation. |
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| Coup |
well as the bands are free i see little point to them. no offense but i dont think theyre going to achieve alot, due to the points mentioned above.
thats all im saying, im not getting drawn into this discussion big style :p |
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| Technaut |
| imagine a world where geeks can be free at school. :stongue: that! some of them need to be told :p |
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| Ste |
| quote: | Originally posted by Technaut
imagine a world where geeks can be free at school. :stongue: that! some of them need to be told :p |
and robbed of their dinner money for skag? :D |
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| Technaut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ste
and robbed of their dinner money for skag? :D |
hell yeah! most geeks get a fair amount for their dinner money too! they clearly dont need it all as most of them are skinny anyway and dont eat much |
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| Phil raa |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_cuba
Cru54d3r makes a good point. Showing that you are anti-bullying by wearing a wristband will achieve very little. A bully isn't going to stop bullying because someone somewhere is wearing a fashion item which says what 90% of the population already know and agree with. It would be much better to give your money to anti-bullying charities who will spend the money on action. |
i think it's that not that wearing the band will stop bullying, but that someone being bullied will see how many people are wearing the band, and actually see for themslves (in a silent way that no one else needs to know about) in reality how many people are concerned about it. |
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| RubiK Cube |
Alot of bullies do it because they think it is "cool" to bully. So if the bully sees that favourite footballer (Thiery Henry has one for example) or pop star is wearing the bands that stand against what they are doing, then it has the chance to make the bully realise that it isnt "cool" and stop.
Plus they raise awareness towards the problem so they may not directly prevent bullying but more people will know how to spot it or give the person who is bullied more confidence to do something about it. |
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| CraSHer[UK] |
| order one regardless, sell it to people in the states on ebay. |
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| gEaK |
Cru54d3r is right...The bands are purely fashion accessories...I could possibly see the point if you had to pay for them and the money went to a charity or whatever...But they are free and are being "advertised" by using big celebrities/footballers names which is simply making them seem "cool" to be seen in rather than their "real" purpose...This is such a typical English thing and people just eat it up...I lose more and more respect for my country each day!
| quote: | Originally posted by RubiK Cube
Alot of bullies do it because they think it is "cool" to bully. So if the bully sees that favourite footballer (Thiery Henry has one for example) or pop star is wearing the bands that stand against what they are doing, then it has the chance to make the bully realise that it isnt "cool" and stop. |
The average English dobber scum isn't anywhere near intelligent enough to realise this...They're actually wearing the bands themselves...They go well with their tracksuits!!! |
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| Ste |
| i saw a try-hard on the bus on friday, he was wearing both bands. |
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