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beatmatching on 1210's (pg. 2)
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| dj jasonF |
| even with one of your fingers as a pointer you will never get it to the exact place it was... anyways thnx for helping |
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| nrjizer |
| I find I can slow a record down during a transition very smoothly by putting my finger on the very edge of the record (not the platter) and giving it just a tiny bit of pressure. You have to be very gentle though, and it's easy to screw it up, but it works pretty well. It beats pitch fading (for slowing down anyways) because I can immediately correct the pitch to exactly where it should be (with pitch fading there's usually always another tiny inaccuracy) |
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| janos |
Like many have said before I regard the pitch method the best.
However the a good sign of your skill level and that of a good DJ is to use a combination of methods depending on the situation. I started to beatmatch using the vinly and then adjusting the pitch in small increments. Then once I got comfortable with this method I turned my attention to learning to mix with the pitch control and nothing else.
You have to keep hanging mate (can't recall who the topic starter was) and practice. You'll get there one day and then you will wonder what the hell all the fuss was about!
Each to their own but the Pitch method is far the best and once you get the hang of it you will be beatmatching within seconds.
One Tip....RIDE THE PITCH!!! |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by janos
Like many have said before I regard the pitch method the best.
However the a good sign of your skill level and that of a good DJ is to use a combination of methods depending on the situation. I started to beatmatch using the vinly and then adjusting the pitch in small increments. Then once I got comfortable with this method I turned my attention to learning to mix with the pitch control and nothing else.
You have to keep hanging mate (can't recall who the topic starter was) and practice. You'll get there one day and then you will wonder what the hell all the fuss was about!
Each to their own but the Pitch method is far the best and once you get the hang of it you will be beatmatching within seconds.
One Tip....RIDE THE PITCH!!! |
Amen, RIDE THE PITCH! should be every DJs mantra damnit. |
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| tu_face |
the problem with pitch riding, is that if i have 3 tunes in and i dont get it back exactly where it was (even half a mm can make the difference) it can everything up. at least when i use the platter, i can get a good result without altering the pitch of the track at all. sometimes i even use the quartz lock button to slow it down when i am using the technics.
this isn't so much of a problem with just 2 tracks though. |
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| Zild |
I never really mix three tracks but I've seen people do it while only riding the pitch. I can match tracks so much faster by riding the pitch, i'm not saying ONLY ride the pitch. I don't always ride the pitch but the more I practice the easier I find it. That wasn't always the case I used to only be able to do good mixes if I didn't ride the pitch.
When you say that you don't get the pitch back in the right place all the time that doesn't matter, the place you had it was wrong to begin with or you wouldn't have to make any corrections. When you ride the pitch you have to ride it back and forth a few times before you get it totally right, or at least I do. In real time this doesn't take very long and you do the corrections before anyone ever hears the mistake. Now if you have beats that are audibly slipping maybe making manual corrections is the best way but thats a big slip up and you need to get that corrected FAST. When I ride the pitch I find that doesn't happen. |
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| dj jasonF |
| yea but you know that from the place you have it its a tiny push from perfection... and dont forget that the pitch is analog so it will show the slightest difference |
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| Zild |
| It just takes practice whenever i pitch ride it I always have to ride it back and forth but the main thing is I can do that quicker than I can do manual adjustments now and without people hearing me do it so its much better. When I first started spinning records I never thought I'd mix by riding the pitch it seemed way too difficult. Everything takes practice. So what if you don't get the pitch back to the perfect spot, just wobble it back and forth and the crowd will never know the difference. |
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| DJ Lucas |
ride the pitch
get good, and it will really tighten your mixes up, it becomes natural, and sounds a lot smoother |
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| Ken_Allen |
Technics don't have good torque and thats something I don't like about them (I'd still buy them anyways)
On my gemini(s) I just use the pitch slider and move it to the top fast or the bottom fast then back to where its supposed to be |
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| djxtension |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Lucas
ride the pitch
get good, and it will really tighten your mixes up, it becomes natural, and sounds a lot smoother |
+1 |
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| tu_face |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I never really mix three tracks but I've seen people do it while only riding the pitch. I can match tracks so much faster by riding the pitch, i'm not saying ONLY ride the pitch. I don't always ride the pitch but the more I practice the easier I find it. That wasn't always the case I used to only be able to do good mixes if I didn't ride the pitch.
When you say that you don't get the pitch back in the right place all the time that doesn't matter, the place you had it was wrong to begin with or you wouldn't have to make any corrections. When you ride the pitch you have to ride it back and forth a few times before you get it totally right, or at least I do. In real time this doesn't take very long and you do the corrections before anyone ever hears the mistake. Now if you have beats that are audibly slipping maybe making manual corrections is the best way but thats a big slip up and you need to get that corrected FAST. When I ride the pitch I find that doesn't happen. |
you are certainly correct in that it definitely takes practise, i never used to be able to do it at all :p
the problem for me is, i get it 95% beatmatched then throw the bleeder in and do the rest on the fly, when its close enough that i only have to make a small adjustment every minute or so, i just leave it there and go to beatmatch another track. sometimes i will move the pitch slightly, but it is often less confusing if you just leave it be.
for me its all about which is the quickest method, and for me pitch riding isn't the quickest :) |
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