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Paulies Serious QUestion no. 1 (pg. 2)
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| töbias |
| Yep, its quite similar to people that need to be in a relationship. Which means they quite often end up in bad ones just for the sake of it. And its always much easier to get into a relationship than out of one... |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Put bluntly, "love" - depending on which sort of "love" we're talking about - is a biological process that has resulted from some biolgical need. However, the fact that it is reducible to a mere neurochemical reaction does not detract from the reality of the emotion - the end result - that we do, quite genuinely, experience. However, in modern society, the authenticity of this emotion is diluted by memetic expectations and misplaced priorities. People are made to feel as though they should rush out and fall in love in order to feel happy. People are made to feel, as Arbiter pointed out above, that there are some set of guidelines that one must follow in order to fall in love or to express one's love once that emotion has been experienced. However, this train of thought - the train of thought many of us have had ingrained into our psyche from an early age - only undermines the authenticity of this very postive set of emotions and cheapens the experience once it happens. "Love" is what you make of it, ultimately, and it can (and does) happen under a variety of circumstances and can (and should) be expressed in a distinctly individual manner in accordance with the authenticity of the emotion one feels.
In other words, love isn't flowers and chocolates. Nor is it the transcendent, metaphysical glue that binds humanity, experientially, together. It is a series of emotions - no more special than any other, ultimately - each with its own disctinct biological purpose that most of us will, at some point, experience in some way or form. While it is an important, life-affirming, positve emotion that one should never endeavour to eschew, it also an emotion that one should never invest in too heavily in relation to one's own individuality. Show me the man who loves too little and I will show you the man who denies his own humanity, show me the man who loves too much and I will show you the man who denies himself.
That, I think, is what love is. |
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| tachyon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
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Put bluntly, "love" - depending on which sort of "love" we're talking about - is a biological process that has resulted from some biolgical need. However, the fact that it is reducible to a mere neurochemical reaction does not detract from the reality of the emotion - the end result - that we do, quite genuinely, experience. However, in modern society, the authenticity of this emotion is diluted by memetic expectations and misplaced priorities. People are made to feel as though they should rush out and fall in love in order to feel happy. People are made to feel, as Arbiter pointed out above, that there are some set of guidelines that one must follow in order to fall in love or to express one's love once that emotion has been experienced. However, this train of thought - the train of thought many of us have had ingrained into our psyche from an early age - only undermines the authenticity of this very postive set of emotions and cheapens the experience once it happens. "Love" is what you make of it, ultimately, and it can (and does) happen under a variety of circumstances and can (and should) be expressed in a distinctly individual manner in accordance with the authenticity of the emotion one feels.
In other words, love isn't flowers and chocolates. Nor is it the transcendent, metaphysical glue that binds humanity, experientially, together. It is a series of emotions - no more special than any other, ultimately - each with its own disctinct biological purpose that most of us will, at some point, experience in some way or form. While it is an important, life-affirming, positve emotion that one should never endeavour to eschew, it also an emotion that one should never invest in too heavily in relation to one's own individuality. Show me the man who loves too little and I will show you the man who denies his own humanity, show me the man who loves too much and I will show you the man who denies himself.
That, I think, is what love is.
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indeed.
amazing what you can come up with on saturday mornings ... :p |
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| 00soups00 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Put bluntly, "love" - depending on which sort of "love" we're talking about - is a biological process that has resulted from some biolgical need. However, the fact that it is reducible to a mere neurochemical reaction does not detract from the reality of the emotion - the end result - that we do, quite genuinely, experience. However, in modern society, the authenticity of this emotion is diluted by memetic expectations and misplaced priorities. People are made to feel as though they should rush out and fall in love in order to feel happy. People are made to feel, as Arbiter pointed out above, that there are some set of guidelines that one must follow in order to fall in love or to express one's love once that emotion has been experienced. However, this train of thought - the train of thought many of us have had ingrained into our psyche from an early age - only undermines the authenticity of this very postive set of emotions and cheapens the experience once it happens. "Love" is what you make of it, ultimately, and it can (and does) happen under a variety of circumstances and can (and should) be expressed in a distinctly individual manner in accordance with the authenticity of the emotion one feels.
In other words, love isn't flowers and chocolates. Nor is it the transcendent, metaphysical glue that binds humanity, experientially, together. It is a series of emotions - no more special than any other, ultimately - each with its own disctinct biological purpose that most of us will, at some point, experience in some way or form. While it is an important, life-affirming, positve emotion that one should never endeavour to eschew, it also an emotion that one should never invest in too heavily in relation to one's own individuality. Show me the man who loves too little and I will show you the man who denies his own humanity, show me the man who loves too much and I will show you the man who denies himself.
That, I think, is what love is. |
wow.
couldnt have said it better if i had tried..
for me, love is about compromise, and about applying what you know about yourself into the relationship and communicating.. you have to constantly communicate otherwise you wont get anywhere. Having said all that though, people think that if its not going peaches & cream, then its not meant to be. I doubt that to be true, because everything is gonna take negotiation and compromise and stuff..
breakup occurs when people cant or dont want to work at relationships.. however what we're pumped full of the ideals of how things should be doesnt make anything easier, not to mention peoples aficionado with the whole 'grass is greener' concept.
end of the day, it is easy to fall in love, but harder to stay in love |
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| Philby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
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typical renegade :p
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actually, typically how i am every time renegade posts :p |
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| RaVVaR |
| the reason why there is a rise in divorce is because the women watched Raw and they all want 'Half' :tongue2 |
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| Philby |
| WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY??? |
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| narcism |
| There are several contributing factors as to why the divorce rate is so high. The idea of people being in love, with falling in love may be one of them. Although i tend to think if someone liked that feeling they wouldnt want to settle down and marry someone. Wouldnt it be more likely that they would jump from one person to another seeking that "good feeling" of "falling in love". |
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| eRRaTiK |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveBegic
and wtf is this two capital letters you do, SOmeone ELse used to do that and its really GAy (:D) |
rofl. pwned!
( sif that definition wasn't googled :P ) |
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| Ves |
Of course it's possible. It's too easy to fall in love with the idea of having someone there for you, or falling for the romanticised version of your relationship instead of the reality. It's a fun ride for the most part..but eventually that ride has to end. is it possible to translate these idealistic illusions and this love for falling in love into a love for the actual person instead? I don't know... :(
As for the divorce rate- that can be accounted for due to shifting societal values, the growing acceptance of divorce. divorce has become more accessible in regards to family law with the notion of 'no fault'. ffs, you can even get a divorce online these days..hit up divorce.gov.au, pay a couple of hundred bucks, wait a few weeks and it's done.
(sorry i'm a bit bitter at the moment, hahah) |
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| djway |
| quote: | Originally posted by Light The Fuse
Ive said it once and i'll say it again;
Love is a chemical reaction in the brain, it happens, it feels good, and it can be trained to last forever. |
You can't train your brain's chemical reactions. You may know how to trigger them, but can't train your brain on how to generate the chemicals.
Case -
1) People who are chemically depressed would be able to re-train their brain out of depression, which doesn't just happen
2) People would train their brains to have the effect/s of drugs (legal and illegal).
In regards to the question (which it appears only Ves has answered so far ;) ). Yes it is. Falling in love with love tho is a never ending cycle, due to the defintion love(falling in love with falling in love with falling in love etc).
SO yes if you mean enjoying the object/vessel/experience of falling in love itself as much as the love you get from the person you fall in love with.
--djway |
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| jizza |
dear dolly-doctor,
my crush says he loves me but i think he's just using me for anal sex. he says its love but i think it hurts. what should i do?
seriously though paul... you talk to our customers? since when & wtf. |
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