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| dj jasonF |
anyone can give me a link? im a noob at producing and id like to see whats are vstis all about.
thanx in advance, jason |
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| dbl |
| first you learn to read.. then you check THIS thread out |
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| dj jasonF |
i check most of them but the links dont work or its a shop...
thanx for the tip. ill go to school tomorrow :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
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| R.j. |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj jasonF
i check most of them but the links dont work or its a shop...
thanx for the tip. ill go to school tomorrow :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
well, the demo's are in the same site posted in the sticky.... just a different URL than the ones in the thread. i think? |
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| Derivative |
mate, just pop on over to www.kvr-vst.com and browse the instruments section. you can get demos for most of the VSTi's on that site from direct downloads.
be sure to check these ones out at least, but otherwise just go nuts:
rgc:audio: Z3ta+
reFX vanguard
applied acoustic systems ultra analog
linplug albino
g-media impOSCar
big tick rhino
native instruments pro-53
native instruments FM7
native instruments reaktor 4
audiorealism bassline
superwave p8 (free)
green oak crystal (free)
reFX claw (free)
that should be enough to get you going. you'll find that all this stuff will overwhelm you at first. it will. basically twiddle with a few of these. find 2 or 3 that you like the sound of, or just feel comfortable using then drop the rest for the time being cuz theres no way in hell you'll be able to juggle all these instruments at the same time. spend some time programming them. if you like it and use it consistantly, buy it.
i recommend vanguard as a first stop regardless because of the synths listed, it remains one of the most intuitive and well laid out synths ive ever used. it sounds pretty cracking good too. |
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| dj jasonF |
thanx for helping.
those vstis are hard to use... i cant find out how the work. maybe its cum my english isnt so good lol. if any of you can help with some "basicks" or something would be gr8 |
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| UphoricNitemare |
The best way to learn i think is just mess around with them for a long time, and see what kind of sounds you can come up with
Also check out
Triangle I
Triangle II |
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| Derivative |
| quote: | | those vstis are hard to use... i cant find out how the work. maybe its cum my english isnt so good lol. if any of you can help with some "basicks" or something would be gr8 |
some of them are a bit abstract yes but you'll have to do some reading about subtractive synthesis.
what alot of those synths have in common is that they have an envelope. a filter. some oscillators. some low frequency oscillators. and many have some effects. ignore the effects for now.
the envelope allows you to shape the sound literally. if you turn the attack up on the amp envelope you'll notice the sound fading in as you press the key. if you up the release knob all the way, you'll notice it kind of trails off once you release the note. the decay and sustain dtermine how long the note 'sustains' for when the key is held. a low decay will result in a stabbing, plinking kind of sound. long decay/sustain results in a continuous sound.
the filter allows you to shape the frequency of the sound that is playing. put it on low pass and set the cutoff to zero. this filters out all the high and mid range frequencies, allowing only low frequencies to pass through. move the filter cutoff and keep opening it. this determines how much higher frequenciers are allowed through. when the cutoff is fully open, it lets all frequencies through. now set it to high pass and put the cutoff fully open. this only allows high frequencies through and blocks everything else. gradually close the cutoff knob. it now lets more lower frequencies through. band pass allows only mid range frequencies through. same applies. band stop filter only allows the high and low frequencies through. it blocks mid range frequencies. the resonance dial increases the volume of the frequencies around the cutoff.
i.e. if the cutoff is closed on low pass and you up the resonance it will make a honking, WUBing kind of sound. if the cutoff is full open on band pass or high pass, it'll make a screeching, squelching high pitched sound.
the oscillators are the next major sound manipulating device on a synth. these make the sound oscillate along a certain pattern. set the oscillator to a sine wave. you can tune it like you would a guitar. it will make the sound 'oscillate' along a sine wave which produces a natural, smooth kind of sound. thats because it resonates in key with the root note that is played. a pulse wave resonates every other harmonic (3rds, 5ths, 7ths,). a saw wave resonates at all harmonics. turning the oscillator from a saw wave to a pulse wave to a sin wave produces this effect. it makes the sound seem thinner because you removing some of the harmonic content of the sound wave all accross the board. there is a use for this but in dance music alot of those massive leads are saw waves or pulse waves because of this and they are often played with chords that are harmonised. sine waves a smoother, more natural singular kind of sound and alot of smooth basslines are made using sine waves. a saw wave bass typically sounds grittier.
the LFO is more complicated. you can use the LFO to modulate other aspects of the synth. mostly the oscillators but sometimes also the filters. i cant really go into huge detail here because the LFOs are complex and can really drastically change the properties of the sound in sometimes unpredictable ways. the most common use of the LFO is to modulate the oscillator tuning which produces a wobbling kind of sound. you can set the LFO speed to determine the rate it which it wobbles.
the interaction of all these basic components is how you synthesize an instrument part. it will take you a long time and alot of effort and alot of patience to get the sounds like the pros get em. nearly all the instruments listed have these basic components you if you understand this principle (which is called subtractive synthesis) then in theory you should be able to program all of them. it doesnt always work in practice because with each synth, each part (like the filter especially) behaves slightly differently and you will find that you have to feel out each new synth from scratch. there are other types of synthesis that basically involve all these components (oscillators, envelopes, lfos, filters) such as additive synthesis and FM (frequency modulation) synthesis. i recommend reading about subtractive synthesis and diving in and program a patch on vanguard. to get it sounding good will take a LONG time so dont be discouraged if you cant get amazing sounds out of it straight away.
if you dont feel you can devote that much time to it my advice would be to save yourself the hassle and the frustration and get a less time consuming, life consuming hobby. if you wanna stick with it, be prepared for a very long, very often frustrating but sometimes truly inspirational ride. once you've bought a synth or two like vanguard and a host like fl studio or sonar, you have the tools you need to make dance music. the rest is all practice and experience. |
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| dj jasonF |
man. thanx for your help. i downloaded the reaktor 4 demo and i cant even make a noise. i play with the nobs i press play and nothing happens.
so ill make the sound i want to and then the melody and stuff in piano roll in fl studio? or do i have to make the melody in the vsti.
how do i add this sound to fl. if i can add the demo
basicly some help on msn would be great if some1 would do this.
thanx again |
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| Derivative |
i think i may have been a bit silly recommending reaktor 4. the thing with reaktor is that its totally modular and modular synths can be confusing as hell since nothing is hardwired, you can effectively build your own synths.
the first thing you do is go to 'channel', then 'add one' then scroll down the list till you get to the synth you want to add. lets say this is vanguard. click it. it'll load vanguard and you'll see a little maroon box listed as vanguard appear in the step sequencer. the control surface may pop up too. press ctrl + T to have your typing keyboard enabled or just press a few keys to see if its already enabled. it should generate a sound from the synth when you press a key. if you have a midi keyboard just use that instead. if not you may have to select the little maroon box or right click it and go into the piano roll. plink a few notes down. at this point it doesnt matter so much what the notes are. just put down a short, single stab. then a stab double in length. then a note that sustains for half a bar, then a chord etc. you can also move it up and down in octaves whilst the sound is playing back to get a feel for where it sounds best. cycle through the presets until you find one like the sound of, whilst this part is playing back. does it sound best in short stabs? does it sound best whilst played in single notes or as a chord? sounds too biting and sibilant? lower it an octave. sounds too muddy and indistinct. raise it an octave. does the sound stab nicely but you want it to echo out a bit more instead of just stabbing and going silent (hint: edit it using the release envelope on the vanguard control surface). using the control surface in vanguard shape the sound of the synth as desired in the way i described in my previous post. its rare that you will find a preset that has a completely desireable sound without any modification. once you have the desired sound its time to contruct a melody. go to the trance chords and scales thread in this forum, it should be on the first page cuz its fairly recent - on the last or second to last page i posted a biiiig post about contructing chords in key of C. this is just a basic tut on how to get a simple melody going. theres also a picture of fruity's piano roll with a melody i made which you can try out to get an idea of the kinds of chords and scales and harmonies that you find in trance music. |
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