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What would the consequences be if Christianity and Islam were merged? (pg. 7)
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
i dont believe there was arabs until the rise of islam. in jesus's days, it was persians, romans, greeks, egyptians, hebrews,etc.
in the days of abraham, it was tribes. races, i dont think existed then, because of how early it still was. |
The Canaanites were there with the israelites. They were very very similar in culture and looks. They derived fromthe same people before them. The caananites are the Palestinians' ancestors. hebrews are the ancestors of modern day arab/sephardic jews |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
The Canaanites were there with the israelites. They were very very similar in culture and looks. They derived fromthe same people before them. The caananites are the Palestinians' ancestors. hebrews are the ancestors of modern day arab/sephardic jews |
That’s not true. The Palestinians who live here today are Arabs. Modern day Arabs did not evolve in the land of Judea/Israel, they evolved from the Arabian tribes of Saudia Arabia.
Hebrews and Jews are the same thing, just a different names…
And Hebrews are defiantly not the ancestors of the modern day Arabs.
Please stop making up stuff… |
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| x-filer |
| religion is very stupid. Don't people know aliens created us? Come on we can't call them "god or Allah" when their probable goal is to harvest us like corn. |
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
good one;) |
Thanks
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blah blah Lucy skeleton. blah blah.
im going to throw out the creationist view, i know everyone doesnt believe the bible, but creationism can be proven scientifically valid. adam and eve were created perfect. they had a perfect DNA code, and there was a moisture firmament above the earth. it never rained, but water came in through streams, and great fountains under the earth. under this firmament, they were protected from the rays of the sun, and the oxygen density was much higher than todays. and so, that is why in the bible, most of the early people lived several hundred years. adam lived to over 900 years old and noah and all in between. |
Dr. Dino?
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but, being forced to reproduce between brother and sister, the DNA code became more and more flawed. and then after noah's flood, when this firmament over the earth came down and all the springs under the earth burst forth, the oxygen density became less dense, the sun now came through the atmosphere stronger. all this, causes mutations. so now, our life expectancy has dropped from several hundred years, to less than a 100. |
Only the wise will understand.
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blah blah animals have had homosexual relations blah blah |
I'm sure someone is going to come up with some article of gay animals. Needless to say that Pavlov had his dog salivate. I am sure someone may have made an animal have same sex ( homosexual denotes human) relations with another animal by conditioning them. Like the same way you get aroused when you watch a porno. Or when you salivate when you see something good to eat on tv.
| quote: | Originally posted by x-filer
religion is very stupid. Don't people know aliens created us? Come on we can't call them "god or Allah" when their probable goal is to harvest us like corn. |
Sounds like them Scientologists have gotten to you already. |
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| .montecarlo. |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
To elaborate further:
Exodus 3:13-14
And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
I AM is Strongs' number 01961 (hayah) |
Ok, so Moses speaks to god... your point?
| quote: | John 1:1-2
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. |
This is nonsense...
Either (a) there is a "begining" and something created god, or (b) there was no "begining" and god is infinite. Which is it?
EDIT: Please argue with your own words instead of just quoting the bible. |
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| ogvh5150 |
| What do you think it is? |
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| .montecarlo. |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
What do you think it is? |
(c) religion is e and there is no god.
:p |
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
Ok, so Moses speaks to god... your point?
This is nonsense...
Either (a) there is a "begining" and something created god, or (b) there was no "begining" and god is infinite. Which is it?
EDIT: Please argue with your own words instead of just quoting the bible. |
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
(c) religion is e and there is no god.
:p |
You could have easily ignored this thread and passed it by without any reply.
But you chose to click on reply and this is the way you argue.
You are not helping atheists with this kind of banter. Either you argue correctly and prove a point or just move on.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak out and remove all doubt.
Abraham Lincoln |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Where did the hebrews or isrealites come from?? You are right...he may not be arab, but he was middle eastern. I still think arabs and modern day middle eastern people are desendents of either israelites caanatiesm arabs or persians.
either way. we came fromthe same tribes... and jesus was probably was closer to arab than any other tribe. He probably looked arab too.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/s.../25/face.jesus/ |
ive seen that face before on the discovery channel. that face is really just their attempt to show what jesus MIGHT have looked like based on skulls from that time.
remember that jesus did not have joseph's DNA, he had mary's and whatever image i think he had in heaven. truth is, they are of middle eastern heritage, but certainly not arab, (600's AD), or persians, etc. i would say they are of mesopotamian descent, as abraham lived in the land of Ur which is in mesopotamia before he moved to canaan. |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
Ok, so Moses speaks to god... your point?
This is nonsense...
Either (a) there is a "begining" and something created god, or (b) there was no "begining" and god is infinite. Which is it?
EDIT: Please argue with your own words instead of just quoting the bible. |
the point is, when god said, "i am that i am", he was replying to mose's question of "who are you". because god is infinite and cannot be comprehended by us(finite), to show us his "everything, glory, power, etc.", he simply said, I am that I am. he just is. im not sure youll understand, moving on..
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if u knew what the contect of this passage was instead of taking it at face value, there would be no questions. jesus it the word. jesus was here in the beginning, he was with god, he was god, and he is the same today as he was in then, and forever. the beginning is the beginning of creation.
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just because u dont believe or understand doesnt make it not true. |
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| .montecarlo. |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
You could have easily ignored this thread and passed it by without any reply. |
That wouldn't be much fun would it?
| quote: | But you chose to click on reply and this is the way you argue.
You are not helping atheists with this kind of banter. |
Helping atheists... WTF? I'm just trying to have a discussion, which you are deffering for some reason. My personal beliefs are not relevant to the topic at hand.
| quote: | | Either you argue correctly and prove a point or just move on. |
Likewise. All you ever do is list websites and quotes...
| quote: | Better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak out and remove all doubt.
Abraham Lincoln |
This is the Political Debate/Disscussion board no?
" or get off the pot." ~ Dante Hicks
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
...I'm just trying to have a discussion, which you are deffering for some reason... |
You asked about whether God was infinite or not without quoting the Bible. I did as you asked.
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
(c) religion is e and there is no god. |
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
Helping atheists... WTF? |
Answer:
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
..All you ever do is list websites and quotes... |
Seems like it bothers you to read.
Or you have trouble reading:
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
This is nonsense...
Either (a) there is a "begining" and something created god, or (b) there was no "begining" and god is infinite. Which is it? |
Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave.
Frederick Douglass |
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