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| Dj Tomer |
Just wondering if anyone else is reading this book, or has already? Im halfway through it and it is hillarious, and also pretty informative (for me anyway).
What are other people's thoughts about it? |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Tomer
Just wondering if anyone else is reading this book, or has already? Im halfway through it and it is hillarious, and also pretty informative (for me anyway).
What are other people's thoughts about it? |
link, or excerpts?? give us SOMETHING;) |
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| TruffleShuffle |
| I got it and read through it already. It's a very good read and very funny :) |
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| imokruok |
Best to remember he's a comedian first, not a historian. Read for entertainment - not for facts.
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Jon Stewart, 'You Magnificent B*stard!' I Read Your Book!
BY JOHN ARMOR
12/25/2004
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/c...y.asp?aid=11972
Dear Jon,
So “America (the Book)” was named Book of the Year by Publishers Weekly. More than successful, it’s a cultural phenomenon. I had to see what all the shouting’s about. If your goal was money and self-promotion, congratulations. If you had a higher goal, close but no cigar.
Begin with the Foreword “by” Thos. Jefferson. Ol’ Tom was one of the greatest political thinkers in history. I’m not going to pick on deliberate falsehoods or fake quotes. Nor brevity, nor attempts at humor. Just flat-out, factual errors.
You have Jefferson say “we” composed “the Declaration and the Constitution.” You credit 26 collaborators on this project. Didn’t any of you know that Jefferson was in Paris when the Constitution was written? There was a movie with the title “Jefferson in Paris,” played by a sober Nick Nolte. Did all of you miss it? But I digress.
You have Jefferson call the Constitution “a living document.” He thought no such thing. In the Kentucky Resolutions, he wrote “Put not your faith in men, but bind them down with the chains of the Constitution.” Elsewhere, he repeatedly called the federal courts “the most dangerous branch,” if they took the law and the Constitution in their own hands to rewrite as they chose.
It’s not that you and your colleagues were ignorant of Jefferson. When you got to the free press, on page 136, you used the great quote from Ol’ Tom about choosing between “government without newspapers, or newspapers without government.” Y’all did your homework, when leading to the answer you wanted. (But you used a corrupt source and blew the quote.)
That the Founding Fathers “weren’t perfect” is self-evident. Ben Franklin said it best at the close of the Constitutional Convention. His speech on compromise included this: “Thus I consent, Sir, to this Constitution because I expect no better, and because I am not sure, that it is not the best. The opinions I have had of its errors, I sacrifice to the public good. I have never whispered a syllable of them abroad."
The one thing we got right, two centuries ago, was writing a Constitution that worked and lasted. Though there are several 5,000-year-old civilizations, the oldest Constitution is ours, at 215 years. Our successes have stemmed from that, with more than a little assistance from Franklin’s Patents, Trademarks and Copyrights Clause. (Every nickel of your royalties is because of those few words.)
Jon, compliments where compliments are due. You almost got the story of the Constitution right. It’s true that “the Founders prayed that the Constitution would be ratified, respected and upheld....” You missed only one, overwhelming point. Amendment of the Constitution is right there in the document. It says that Congress and the states have that power, NOT a bare majority of the Supreme Court Justices on any given Friday (when they conference their decisions).
Of the 191 Members of the United Nations, 185 have written constitutions, in most cases as just unenforced window dressing. For all your bemoaning the fate of the United States, you miss this essential point too. But there are many lesser errors in your work.
Just on a fast read, and without doing extra homework, “America (the Book)” has an average of 1.5 gross historical errors per page. Let’s just sample the prime numbers: P. 1, in every election since 1789, more than two people have run for President; P. 3, you assume no demagogues in Athens – perhaps y’all were ignorant of the ostracism of General Alcibiades, leading to the fall of Athens?; P. 5, Gutenberg did not lead to the dumbing down of literacy, the National Education Association has done that; P. 7, Machiavelli’s influence on American democracy is not “none,” it is massive. Don’t you follow politics at all?
Jon, you’ve written a book of humor, not philosophy. Still, you are too bright and well educated to hide behind that excuse. You seek to be a “newsman” while you condemn the breed. And you seek to “educate” while you amuse. Sometimes the humor IS subtle. Like the quote without attribution to Otto von Bismarck (P. 66). Or the bow to Eric “Otter” Stratton’s legal summation in “Animal House” (P. 91).
I called you a “magnificent b*stard,” because your goal was higher than mere amusement and money. (You certainly caught my reference to General Patton, commenting on Field Marshal Rommel.) You sought to put useful information in the hands of many people, even if tricking them into it. Fair enough. Surely there will be a second edition. Next time, talk to a couple people who REALLY know the details of your subject.
Sort of like Victor Borge at the piano, you need to know the music straight before you can conduct a sidesplitting take-off. Fair enough?
Cordially,
John Armor
About the Writer: John Armor is a First Amendment lawyer and writer who lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. |
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| Reverend_Trance |
| quote: | Originally posted by imokruok
Best to remember he's a comedian first, not a historian. Read for entertainment - not for facts. |
That letter nails that book on the head. Jon Stewart does not really have a news program. It just mocks people and important issues. |
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| Dj Tomer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
That letter nails that book on the head. Jon Stewart does not really have a news program. It just mocks people and important issues. |
You might even say its a comedy show :rolleyes: |
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Tomer
You might even say its a comedy show :rolleyes: |
I wouldn't go THAT far :D |
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| stren |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
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well i guess you really contribute after all
Anyways, I hope i will find it Poland, cause it sounds like a fun read, and Jon always brings the goods |
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| wolverine16 |
My favorite part was the activity where you have a blank map of the Middle East and you are supposed to draw in random political boundaries with no regard for religious, ethnic considerations, etc.
The book is like reading the Onion, it's satire, but there's a lot truth too, as that activity, for example, is pretty much what the colonial powers actually did. |
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| Dj Tomer |
| quote: | Originally posted by wolverine16
My favorite part was the activity where you have a blank map of the Middle East and you are supposed to draw in random political boundaries with no regard for religious, ethnic considerations, etc.
The book is like reading the Onion, it's satire, but there's a lot truth too, as that activity, for example, is pretty much what the colonial powers actually did. |
I love the activities where you divide the class into groups and try to get stuff accomplished, but it does it in the dumbest ways, to show how the senate/congress works, and the voting system. |
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