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the dutch and the english language (pg. 2)
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| MaGiK54 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phat B
this hairy little puppet (anyone knows what I mean?) |
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| moogwai |
| quote: | Originally posted by SportTrance
Whats also interesting is the neighboring countries dont really have this feature, and the dutch language is far from similar to the english language. The difference isnt so much that they speak the language fluently, but its the word usage and overall accent that seperates them from any other country.
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Dutch language is more similar to the english language then you think. Lot's of words are looking or sounding the same for us. This makes it also easier to learn.
A dutchman can communicate with english or german (which is the closest related language) people without knowing the language. For the reason above we can understand/interpret those languages a bit, but in the other hand we can't communicate with french or spanish people without having some basic skills. |
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| New Wave |
And education is very good here.
On a young age we allready got english classes. |
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| basvh |
| quote: | Originally posted by New Wave
And education is very good here.
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mmm, don't agree! Dutch Education is good/mediocre. Very good is just b/s |
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| jp |
| Our education WAS good 15 years ago |
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| Djeebie |
| quote: | Originally posted by jp
Our education WAS good 15 years ago |
You're from that time aren't you :D
Ontopic: I also thought it has to do with the way the dutch language developed through the years. It's something in relation to some core languages from ages ago. Like said above we're good at learning other languages (e.g. English, German). Maybe some language experts here could explain it to us. |
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| jp |
Yes I am :p
My gf is a school teacher and she says everything went downhill, especially the last 5 years |
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| Djeebie |
Well despite some apparent 'downfall' of education the dutch are still famous for their learning, working and building capacities in the world.
E.g. recently a European research was conducted and the outcome was the dutch kids were good at math, despite their disliking of it. |
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| SnuggLe |
| quote: | Originally posted by New Wave
And education is very good here.
On a young age we allready got english classes. |
I agree with NewWave's point. I think it has to do with the educational system, but also the media has a lot of influence (together with music). The fact that German dub everything (instead of using subtitles) is a perfect example, as mentioned earlier.
But i think that in a lot of countries (like France, for example) people CAN speak English, but they just won't. Maybe its arrogance, maybe is something else, but i think they are a bit nationalistic in a way. If you try to talk in their own language first and if that doesnt work, switch to English, it usually isnt a problem.
JP: How come you got the gift to make sure every topic ends offtopic....... :D |
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| jp |
| I'll give you 5 cents for every Italian or French TA you can find that speaks decent English. In other words, some countries are less willing to open up to other culture and/or languages. |
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| SnuggLe |
By the way, my guess is that in a year or ten the English grammar of Dutch people is much worse, and also the percentage of people speaking proper English drops.
Why? All those retards that use 'internetlanguage' (English or their own language, that doesnt matter) as a 'real' language. In a while they wont see the difference.
Pisses me off..... I cant communicate with morons on MSN who use that kind of language. Use capitals and interpunction goddamnit! |
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| SportTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by jp
Yes I am :p
My gf is a school teacher and she says everything went downhill, especially the last 5 years |
Has she taught in an innercity highschool in the united states? She MIGHT change her mind! |
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