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Are samples over-rated?
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| nankervis |
| Hey i'm new to this producing thing, and none of my songs sound "proper". Could this be a sample problem or will a good song sound good even with bad samples? Also, if any experienced producers are willing to listen to some of my total n00b productions and help me out, I'd appreciate it greatly. |
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| echosystm |
Bad samples will sound , good samples will sound good - thats why theyre called good or bad lol :D
There are a lot of reasons why your songs don't sound good - bad melodies, bad synths, bad mixing, bad samples, bad percussion patterns etc. Your question is a bit to broad for anyone to really tell you. Maybe, try posting a sample of something you've done :) |
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| Rob |
| If you want us to tell if it sounds "proper" or not, post a short 20 second sample of your work:) |
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| Jake Conlon |
| as they say on my national diploma in music technology course.... in out :D |
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| Dj Thy |
Of course, but don't forget that the opposite (quality in - quality out) doesn't apply 100% of the time either.
It's not because the samples (or any sound for that matter) sound good that it will fit in the whole. Sometimes you can try to EQ it to fit in better, apply heavy processing and still not come up with a decent result.
Most of all, the sounds should fit together. That's one of the first things you learn in audio engineering (more applied to eq'ing and processing) : it's no use making something sound good on it's own, if it doesn't fit in the mix. Always put it in context.
Might be difficult to do when you're starting a song from scratch. You can use temporary sounds to make the basic structure, but find out you'll end up with completely different sounds in the end (unless you have very good skills). |
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| UphoricNitemare |
| Thats true, sometimes minor EQ adjustments can make a huge difference, but in the end it has to fit the rest of the song, or your just a 70's hairband with way too much lead guitar that doesn't even sound good. |
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| Sirocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
Bad samples will sound , good samples will sound good - thats why theyre called good or bad lol :D
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bah wtf i use crappy samples and conunction with good...so u gt that hitech feel with the lofi sound also, fo rmidrange percs |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sirocco
bah wtf i use crappy samples and conunction with good...so u gt that hitech feel with the lofi sound also, fo rmidrange percs |
drop ur attitude plz.. because it works with you doesnt mean it works for eveybody else :rolleyes: |
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| Freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jake Conlon
as they say on my national diploma in music technology course.... in out :D |
Thats true in a lot of situations, but with samples that rule is thrown out of the window big time
'bad' and 'good' are entirely subjective
Dj shadows 'endtroducing' is made entirely from (technically)'bad' samples, but its one of the best albums ever written. Far too many similar examples of this to list.
Its not the tools you have, its what you do with them that counts.
You can have racks of synths, an SSL console. all the softsynths and VSTs under the sun- but if you suck, you will still suck but just sound slightly better
All the gear and no idea- AGNI
Try Brian Enos oblique strategies for some inspiration |
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| Sirocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
drop ur attitude plz.. because it works with you doesnt mean it works for eveybody else :rolleyes: |
there is no attitude |
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| Pjotr G |
it's true that rounchy samples are useable in a context, but unless you make industrial, samples that end/start with an offset result in clicking etc, that's not very handy. hihats sampled from a 96 kb/s mp3 won't give your track much bite. There's a difference between a bad sampling job, and rounchy samples.
Anyway, if you want anything in this life done right, you're gonna have to do it yourself, and that includes sampling imo :) |
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