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Mixing with .1% Increments (pg. 2)
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beats and beeps
just go for the 3000 its not that much more, and you get a good platter for scratching, a sampler, and 0.02 pitch accuracy.

To be honest the 1000 is great for the money, but it really seems sort of toyish.

The 3000 is not toyish in the least.
DannyO
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Originally posted by beats and beeps
just go for the 3000 its not that much more, and you get a good platter for scratching, a sampler, and 0.02 pitch accuracy.

To be honest the 1000 is great for the money, but it really seems sort of toyish.

The 3000 is not toyish in the least.


Well I'm gonna check them out, gonna check alot of them out, I can't find anything about the increments on that Vestax CDX so my guess is its .1 aswell, I know that the 3000s can do .02 but only having 4% of movement is not to much, especially when I play alot of my music faster than normal so the samples and loops would have to be pitched higher...hmm could just make the loops faster loops before burning, but anyway, I'm gonna have to test them all out and also see what its like mixin with .1% increments, I just really want the CDJ1000mk2, I love the control and feel of it, just feels so at home on it.
beats and beeps
The Vestax player is 0.1

Its even worse (and more expensive player) than the 1000, unless youre interested in spending the extra cash to get that tascam add on thing, but you might as well get serato then.
DannyO
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Originally posted by beats and beeps
The Vestax player is 0.1

Its even worse (and more expensive player) than the 1000, unless youre interested in spending the extra cash to get that tascam add on thing, but you might as well get serato then.


Naa definately not interested in that TTM1 addon, but thanks for telling me about the increments, that rules that player out for now.
onceler
Denon prob. wont update the 1000 to the .02 increment as that is the cheap one and it is cheap for a reason. Sure, the s5000 did get an update, and they prob. could do one for the 1000, but why would they put too much effort into the cheap one when the 5000 is their bread winner in that line.

As for the .1, you just get used to every so many beats having to push the nudge buttons (or adjusting the jog if on the pioneers). the main thing that sux is trying to find if say 5.1% is closer than 5.2%... ie: which one requires less adjusting.
DannyO
I hear what your saying, but if your able to improve something then it should be done, the S1000 might be there low end model, but they still make Denon loads of money, and if they were able to do .02 increments, they would sell even more, I know I would have one right now if they could do that, I would find it very ty of Denon if that unit is able to do much better things, but they don't bother due to it not being there top of the range unit.
beats and beeps
I dunno...I mean all the other players in that price range have 0.1 (cdj100, axis series, vestax cdx, etc.) Hell, you know that the numark cdx has 0.1 accuracy, and it certainly is not cheap.

I'm surprised they were able to make the 3000 have 0.02 accuracy for its price, because besides it the only players that have .02 are the dns5000 and cdj1000 as far as I know, and they are both well over a thousand (canadian)
DannyO
Yea thats true, but can you imagen how much they would clean up with a 600 dollar player with .02 accuracy, I feel like many CD players ain't aimed at mixin DJs due to all these features bells and whistles, yet alot of them don't have great accuracy for mixing, take the S1000, now take away all those FX and put in the good accuracy, now I think your onto a wicked CDJ aimed at mixers.

Who cares how great and featured packed a peice of gear is if it can't do the basics well, I think for mixin CDJs it should be law to have them .05% or better.

Somebody needs to make an analog motor for CDJs, so me have infinite range across all pitch ranges.
tu_face
i don't find it difficult at all, and i find it stays in a lot longer than 2 seconds :p i think that is just poor beatmatching..

maybe 20-30 seconds or so at a guess..? but as you will discover using 1 cd deck with 2 tt's, its easy to get it as close as the cd deck will take it, then make a final small adjustment on the deck to get it perfect. this can be a pain in the arse if you are having 2 tracks in while you do this, but its certainly doable :)
CraSHer[UK]
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Originally posted by onceler
Denon prob. wont update the 1000 to the .02 increment as that is the cheap one and it is cheap for a reason. Sure, the s5000 did get an update, and they prob. could do one for the 1000, but why would they put too much effort into the cheap one when the 5000 is their bread winner in that line.



The update for the s5000 was for mp3 playback and not to alter any pitch accuracy. I am fairly certain it is not possible to make pitch slider changes through firmware upgrades. And as mentioned they would never do this on the s1000 even if they could.

Also, in the other ranges the s3000 (as i understand it) doesnt drop from 0.02 to 0.1, it goes to 0.05 (the same as the cdj800)

Ken_Allen
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Originally posted by dj_lane
Ive got the American Audio DCD-PRC210 CDJ

it has .1% increments, it is a little annoying, but it works well, just keep listening and move the "wheel" or pad... (whatever that thing is called on the 1000)


yeh...I can get it in sync...but then have to move it then it gets out of sync again & then you start to hear it speeding up & slowing down then it becomes sucky y & gah it's all over :wtf:
J:\Digital
then you obviously can't get it in sync... ;)
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