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200,000 Insurgents in Iraq (pg. 3)
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| zig |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Right so there are 200'000 terrorists in Iraq,could does 200'000 be ordinary Iraqi's fighting for their country,and freedom?you Americans love to lable anythig or anyone that fights you "terrorists".:rolleyes:
To the eyes of many in this world your government is the terrorist. |
Reminds me of a captioned photograph(joke )i saw a couple of years back..George Bush and Tony Blair sitting together with a look of astonishment on their faces and the caption coming from Blair read "and the iraqis are auctually shooting back at us" |
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| smokeape |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Right so there are 200'000 terrorists in Iraq,could does 200'000 be ordinary Iraqi's fighting for their country,and freedom?you Americans love to lable anythig or anyone that fights you "terrorists".:rolleyes:
To the eyes of many in this world your government is the terrorist. |
WTF?? Take it you can't speak fluent English since you make no sense and sound like an abolute moron. Maybe you can understand this then, "Kiss My ing Ass!" Look it up in the dictionary if you don't understand.
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
WTF?? Take it you can't speak fluent English since you make no sense and sound like an abolute moron. Maybe you can understand this then, "Kiss My ing Ass!" Look it up in the dictionary if you don't understand.
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or you are just too stupid to see whats happening? ;) |
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| smokeape |
I can clearly see what's happening. We are killing the f*ck out of insurgents trying to stop a democratic election in Iraq. What are you seeing?
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| Dervish |
You know the saddest thing here is that the americans who want to "blow them all to hell" would in their postion be the most likely to be doing what the insurgents are doing right now.
It's not a black and white thing. It's real life and so it's a mess it's personal not logical and unfair.
Maybe there are 200,000 insurgents but your still going to have elections (perhaps now isn't the best time but it's been committed to). Can't pull out either.
My view is we've just got to get on with it and treat the Iraqis with the most respect we can. And do our best for them, because it's the best for us too.
(btw good to be back after Christmas & NY hope you all had good ones) |
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| wolverine16 |
| Iraq is not and never has been a nation, just a political boundary created from colonialsim. The Kurd, Sunni and Shi'ite groups are all in disagreement and simply aren't in favor of forming a united government. The insurgeny has come in part from some foreign fighters, but it is no coincidence that the heavy fighting is coming from the Sunni regions. Saddam's brutal rule kept the country under one government despite differences and since he was a Sunni himelf, these people are now not in favor of a government where they are to be a minority group. It is much more complicated than a bunch of people don't want democracy. It would be like if Quebec and a small red state in the U.S. were linked together by a repressive government and then suddenly they were liberated and given an election process, but the red state didn't want a political system that would provide the French-speaking majority with a larger control of the government, they would prefer to live separately. We've been protecting the Kurds from the rest ofthe country for well over a decade now, so who knows how they'll fit into the proposed government either. Their neighbors in Turkey don't like them either for that matter, |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
WTF?? Take it you can't speak fluent English since you make no sense and sound like an abolute moron. Maybe you can understand this then, "Kiss My ing Ass!" Look it up in the dictionary if you don't understand.
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Stupid in American :rolleyes: |
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| shaolin_Z |
Main Entry: in·sur·gent
Pronunciation: in-'s&r-j&nt
Function: noun
1 : a person who rises in revolt against civil authority or an established government; especially : one not recognized as a belligerent
2 : one that acts contrary to the established leadership (as of a political party, union, or corporation) or its decisions and policies
Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc. |
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| zig |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
You know the saddest thing here is that the americans who want to "blow them all to hell" would in their postion be the most likely to be doing what the insurgents are doing right now.
It's not a black and white thing. It's real life and so it's a mess it's personal not logical and unfair.
Maybe there are 200,000 insurgents but your still going to have elections (perhaps now isn't the best time but it's been committed to). Can't pull out either.
My view is we've just got to get on with it and treat the Iraqis with the most respect we can. And do our best for them, because it's the best for us too.
(btw good to be back after Christmas & NY hope you all had good ones) |
would have reservations in your post....last line in particular..because its best for us too. |
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| zig |
| quote: | Originally posted by wolverine16
Iraq is not and never has been a nation, just a political boundary created from colonialsim. The Kurd, Sunni and Shi'ite groups are all in disagreement and simply aren't in favor of forming a united government. The insurgeny has come in part from some foreign fighters, but it is no coincidence that the heavy fighting is coming from the Sunni regions. Saddam's brutal rule kept the country under one government despite differences and since he was a Sunni himelf, these people are now not in favor of a government where they are to be a minority group. It is much more complicated than a bunch of people don't want democracy. It would be like if Quebec and a small red state in the U.S. were linked together by a repressive government and then suddenly they were liberated and given an election process, but the red state didn't want a political system that would provide the French-speaking majority with a larger control of the government, they would prefer to live separately. We've been protecting the Kurds from the rest ofthe country for well over a decade now, so who knows how they'll fit into the proposed government either. Their neighbors in Turkey don't like them either for that matter, |
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| zig |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
I can clearly see what's happening. We are killing the f*ck out of insurgents trying to stop a democratic election in Iraq. What are you seeing?
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| smokeape |
| quote: | Originally posted by zig
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-10 for you motherf*cker. Say something or just STFU and leave.
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