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| placebo |
| Heh, opposite for me...whenever I record I do alot better! |
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| Exodus17 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I can beatmatch alright but thats not really the problem with my mixes. They just don't sound as nice or as smooth as I would like them to. Maybe I'm just very self critical of myself when I listen to my mixes because I already know exactly where every little mistake is. I hear those mistakes like nails on a chalk board. |
+1
i get that all the time, happens alot on my decks... even calling them decks is a stretch... feel more like toys compared to a 1200...
plastic beltdrives:whip:
i get some good mixes, but whenever one goes bad its usually collosal and ends up with the outgoing track being Xslapped out..:crazy: |
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| placebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Exodus17
+1
i get that all the time, happens alot on my decks... even calling them decks is a stretch... feel more like toys compared to a 1200...
plastic beltdrives:whip:
i get some good mixes, but whenever one goes bad its usually collosal and ends up with the outgoing track being Xslapped out..:crazy: |
respect to those who can match on belts! |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by placebo
respect to those who can match on belts! |
+1, I don't have the patience for that. |
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| amartinathome |
The truth is that when you are hooked up to a big system like in a club or some people's home - you don't even hear little mistakes because everything is just bangin' away so loud. When you record you of course get to hear every little detail so some transitions are going to be off.
One way to look at it is, if you listen to yourself after you record and you think it sounds good - then you'll have no problem at a club. |
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| bass.exe |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
If your recording a cd and you just wonna get it done you can always edit :D |
haha true that... if you are making a demo mix and want it to be perfect i def recommend doing this.:toothless |
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| DJ 00 Tommy |
Also in alot of clubs especialy around where i live most people wont notice... actualy most people here wont care, just aslong u pik good cheesy songs n bitch slap the crossfader :toothless lol
But the demo would still have to be good (duhh) |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by R.j.
why is it that when i record myself i suck so bad??? I mean yeah i know i'm not THAT GOOD, maybe not even good but i can mix decently if im not recording... then if i try to record i always tend to up on the third transition.... anyone expeirence this too? |
Ok, here is the psychology behind the situation of what you are experiencing.
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When you are recording yourself you are being far more critical to yourself and in fact are listening out for mistakes. That way you will notice them more as upposed to when the pressure is off and doesn't matter.
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It is a well documented fact that the ability to perform under pressure is determined by how well and how frequently your body has been trained to do something.
As with athletes it is also true for DJs.
Here are the different stages of learning.
First stage:
You have to conciously think about the act of DJing and what you are doing. You have to put in effort to remember each part of DJing from monitoring to transition. This does not flow yet so any outside pressure will disrupt. Not to mention that your ears are probably yet not still well trained beat matching devices as this takes time to develop.
Second stage:
As above except now you have the act of DJing from a mechanical view down and you don't have to think about the motions that you go through so this will be automatic. You still have trouble though due to the fact that your ears are still not fully trained and thus will still have to apply a fair amount of concentration to get things sounding sort of right. This stage can actually be harder as you will be even more aware of the mistakes you are making. Most DJs quit here.
Third stage:
This is when it starts to be fun. You can beat match well and have the confidence to know that you don't have to think too much about what you are doing. This is when you are able to start making some good demos. Your ears are well developed and as such you are less prone to be upset by normal distractions but will still suffer if something more out of the norm comes along.
The fourth:
Your DJing is pure instinct or second nature to you. You match beats as if it was breathing and you know when to drop the tune because your heart tells you it's right. You understand keys and have an ear that recognise where the mix needs to go.
You will find that you start to have large amounts of time during transitions that you never noticed before. Almost like the Matrix effect. Because of your skill you have plenty of time to do other things.
The Fith:
You can read a crowd and you know what they want to hear. Your skills are so deeply lodged in your back bone you are hardly aware that you are doing them.
The Sixth:
You can lead the crowd to where you want to go.
Kind of like the six steps to glory but take head grasshopper for this road takes time and patience if you are to travel it. Be aware that very few ever make it past the second stage.
Never give in to the dark side as the sound of Death Metal Polka will forever be ringing in your ears...
Ok so ignore the last bit.
Ok, when it comes to demos it has to be good. It's your resume so make it count. If you have to edit you are not good enough plain and simple.
And as always, I know very few people who actually got a gig through giving out CDs. Network, network, network is all I can say.
Cheers
Nem |
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| futuredepth |
| Hey man, thanks that was pretty helpful. I'd have to say i'm to the 2nd stage at this point, I just bust my ass everyday, and im trying to get it down solid. |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by futuredepth
Hey man, thanks that was pretty helpful. I'd have to say i'm to the 2nd stage at this point, I just bust my ass everyday, and im trying to get it down solid. |
Good on you.
Just be aware though that to be able to do all this properly is a question of years rather than months.
It is a lot of fun though.
Cheers
Nem |
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| liquidmist2001 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
Third stage:
This is when it starts to be fun. You can beat match well and have the confidence to know that you don't have to think too much about what you are doing. This is when you are able to start making some good demos. Your ears are well developed and as such you are less prone to be upset by normal distractions but will still suffer if something more out of the norm comes along.
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damn, turns out i stopped DJing just when it was getting fun, cuz that's where i was at...i just needed to concentrate more on finishing school and stuff before i picked it back up again...now, if only i was musically inclined, being able to read the harmonics and stuff, that would've been KEY!!!! |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by liquidmist2001
damn, turns out i stopped DJing just when it was getting fun, cuz that's where i was at...i just needed to concentrate more on finishing school and stuff before i picked it back up again...now, if only i was musically inclined, being able to read the harmonics and stuff, that would've been KEY!!!! |
C'mon... if you are just finishing school you have time a plenty to get going. :)
Try and teach yourself the harmonic stuff you wont regret it and it will seriously help with all other aspects of your DJing.
Cheers
Nem |
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