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The New Pioneer DJM-1000 (pg. 2)
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| Scottaculous |
Some pros and cons I immediately see.
Pro:
* Midi output -- hello Ableton Live!
* Cross-fader assignment -- i hated the djm-600's cross fader assignment because of that slightly disconnect from suorce whenever i switch channels
* Curve adjustment for channel faders --- because i use channel faders
Cons:
* No pre-EQ monitoring on the headphones |
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| Scottaculous |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
thats been true with all pioneer mixers... i actually like it, you know how a incoming track is gunna sound with the EQ's adjusted. |
A pre and post EQ monitoring switch would be best then. |
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| Vlad |
| You cant hear EQ's on A&H mixers too. If you need 6 channels, get a 464 or 92. This is just outrageous. If I had any plans of spending $2500, Id either buy the Rane rotary, or go looking for a Urei with healthy phono cards. |
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| DjArTiN! |
| That's cool, that it's slanted from the side. |
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| Derivative |
| quote: | | If I had any plans of spending $2500, Id either buy the Rane rotary, or go looking for a Urei with healthy phono cards. |
this is kind of what i was getting at. even for club installations if you have 2 grand to spend, theres alot of other ways to spend it that get you more than just a 6 channel mixer with pioneer on it. granted, the djm 1000 will very likely do what it does very very well. but come on! 2 grand?! just think of how you could spend that right now (i know the 1000 isnt out yet) and what kind of stuff you can get with it. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jonny Thrice
the ECLER SCLAT 200vs is a far better 19" installation mixer for less money. Still expensive (around $2K USD, maybe a little less), but the sound quality is phenomenal (no digital crap here) and these things last forever. I have customers who have had these for 20 years with no problems!
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I just messed my pants Johnny.
Derivitive, I see what you're saying but I think for the clubs that are going to install this the price isn't going to be a factor. Pio will probably pay to have a some of these installed in the big name clubs when Its first released. |
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| brian |
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
some absolutly mediocre, if not poor equipment |
So you've tried it then? :rolleyes:
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
I do not know why someone would spend thousands on a company that has not proven its mixers to be reliable in the past |
My DJM-500 has served me extremely well and has taken a good beating with no problems. |
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| brian |
Good to see they've gone with a full -26dB trim here instead of the -20dB on the DJM-500 - which sometimes leaves me needing more trim room... |
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| beats and beeps |
| quote: | Originally posted by brian
So you've tried it then? :rolleyes:
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Why would I need to try it?
I can see the features the equipment has, I can read the price. Thats all I need to know.
I'll give the cdj200 the benefit of a doubt, and say it will be absolutly reliable. Now that given, its features still do not make up for its price. When there are various players out there that have vinyl simulation, and multiple cues (hot cues) for the same price. And they have the same reliability. They may not have 0.02 pitch, but I would say that having bend buttons, and vinyl simulation make up for this. (I'm referring to the cdx-05, axis9, dns1000, and other various players in this price range)
Also, If you have looked into the NAMM show, you would know that many other manufacturers are putting out many new cd players that will be very affordable, reliable, and functional.
Now you tell me what the djm offers for $2900? (thats what the guys on the pio board are saying now) It is digital, but it doesnt use that for any sort of amazing tricks like the dnx1500 did. The bpm syncing thing is pretty blah. For 2500-3000 dollars you can do alot better than that.
It will work nicely with the cdj1000s, and the efx1000 (which again is way overpriced) but for 2 cdj1000s, an efx1000, and a djm1000 you're looking at like...6000 dollars american. You can do alot better with that money on dj equipment if you were to spend it wisely.
Pioneer made a poor move, they tried to take on the allen and heath market, instead of creating their own, which is what they've always done in the past.
Oh, well, I guess we'll just have to wait for those mail in rebates pioneer always ends up using... |
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| brian |
| quote: | | Originally posted by beats and beeps Why would I need to try it? |
Then I suppose you meant the visible features...
| quote: | | I can see the features the equipment has |
Yeah me too - thankfully the DJM-1000 has a lot less of the useless that so many other manufacturers feel the need to put in their mixers--such as crappy FX features and BPM counters.
But then again, I sincerely doubt this is for the bedroom DJ market like other said mixers are. They've taken the FX/BPM out and given you the ability to use a few external FX units, which is probably where FX belong anyway. I don't see the point of having such a tight-ranged isolator, though...that appears to be useless, as does the fader start stuff. Never used fader start, but I'm sure there's somebody that does...heh..
| quote: | | Now you tell me what the djm offers for $2900? |
I wasn't even disputing price with you - I dont like the [rumored] price tag either, but again, this doesn't look like a bedroom DJ product. It's got 6 channels for crying out loud...
| quote: | | The bpm syncing thing is pretty blah. |
I'll never understand why people use that crap...
All in all I find it rather refreshing that a company is getting back to basics on their mixers by ditching the built-in FX, samplers, LED screens, and the like...leaves them to focus more on the sound quality. Besides, too many people use FX extraneously and don't focus enough on their mixing. I'm not saying FX can't be used in a good way; just saying there are lots of people that overuse them in a distracting manner.
One other thing, it's going to be hard to compete with the analog sound quality on the A&H line if Pioneer makes everything digital. |
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| TheAddict |
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
Why would I need to try it?
I can see the features the equipment has, I can read the price. Thats all I need to know.
I'll give the cdj200 the benefit of a doubt, and say it will be absolutly reliable. Now that given, its features still do not make up for its price. When there are various players out there that have vinyl simulation, and multiple cues (hot cues) for the same price. And they have the same reliability. They may not have 0.02 pitch, but I would say that having bend buttons, and vinyl simulation make up for this. (I'm referring to the cdx-05, axis9, dns1000, and other various players in this price range)
Also, If you have looked into the NAMM show, you would know that many other manufacturers are putting out many new cd players that will be very affordable, reliable, and functional.
Now you tell me what the djm offers for $2900? (thats what the guys on the pio board are saying now) It is digital, but it doesnt use that for any sort of amazing tricks like the dnx1500 did. The bpm syncing thing is pretty blah. For 2500-3000 dollars you can do alot better than that.
It will work nicely with the cdj1000s, and the efx1000 (which again is way overpriced) but for 2 cdj1000s, an efx1000, and a djm1000 you're looking at like...6000 dollars american. You can do alot better with that money on dj equipment if you were to spend it wisely.
Pioneer made a poor move, they tried to take on the allen and heath market, instead of creating their own, which is what they've always done in the past.
Oh, well, I guess we'll just have to wait for those mail in rebates pioneer always ends up using... |
You seem to be way too bitter. As far as what it offers, how about the best sound possible?
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