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Two damaged styli?
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| CraSHer[UK] |
Im close to loosing my temper.
Set up both my ortofon (OS Pro S) carts and stylus, and both sound .
The sounds is all crackly and distorted, unbearbaly bad, and it happens on both turntables. I dont understand? My old carts sounded fine, allough they were getting old so i bought a new pair. Which sound awlful.
Also, when i disconnect all the red, white, green and blue cables from the cartridge, I can hear the distortion just from putting my head close to the stylus and letting it play on a record.
So whats the problem, both my brand new styli are broken? Because both sound bad without amplification. The odds are very slim? and i couldnt have damaged them becuase i had the protective cover right up untill i tried them, and from the start both sounded real bad.
An odd thing i have noticed, and hopefully it helps, is that places in the track with no bass, sound so so so much clearer.
Any ideas, i dont want to have to retuern these to djstore. |
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| Greedy |
| i think youll have to. |
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| veezee |
I dont know whats wrong, but let me tell you, i feel for you.. I just bought a pair of replacements for my 680's , and one jumps across the record all by itself.. it is pissing me off.. 100+ bucks down the drain.. !!
Jay |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by CraSHer[UK]
Im close to loosing my temper.
Set up both my ortofon (OS Pro S) carts and stylus, and both sound .
The sounds is all crackly and distorted, unbearbaly bad, and it happens on both turntables. I dont understand? My old carts sounded fine, allough they were getting old so i bought a new pair. Which sound awlful.
Also, when i disconnect all the red, white, green and blue cables from the cartridge, I can hear the distortion just from putting my head close to the stylus and letting it play on a record.
So whats the problem, both my brand new styli are broken? Because both sound bad without amplification. The odds are very slim? and i couldnt have damaged them becuase i had the protective cover right up untill i tried them, and from the start both sounded real bad.
An odd thing i have noticed, and hopefully it helps, is that places in the track with no bass, sound so so so much clearer.
Any ideas, i dont want to have to retuern these to djstore. |
Increase the weight on the tone arm.
In my experience I have noticed that you will get crap sound if you don't have enough weight as the stylus isn't able to sit in the groove properly.
Cheers
Nem |
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| CraSHer[UK] |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
Increase the weight on the tone arm.
In my experience I have noticed that you will get crap sound if you don't have enough weight as the stylus isn't able to sit in the groove properly.
Cheers
Nem |
As always you are correct.
I increaesed the tonearm weight and there has been a vast improvement in sound. To be honest I am suprised, i wouldnt have though putting more weight on would have helped. The sound quality is better now, i'll give them a few hours of play see how they get on. Allough i am concerned about record wear, becuase there is a considerable weight on the stylus and record now.
Thanks Nem |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by CraSHer[UK]
I increaesed the tonearm weight and there has been a vast improvement in sound. To be honest I am suprised, i wouldnt have though putting more weight on would have helped. The sound quality is better now, i'll give them a few hours of play see how they get on. Allough i am concerned about record wear, becuase there is a considerable weight on the stylus and record now.
Thanks Nem |
The record wear isn't greater. It's just the weight of the technics headshell that is heavier than the Ortofon. The other thing is that I beleive the weight distribution is slighly different.
I use Ortofons all the time and have no problems with any of my records for that reason.
Cheers
Nem |
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| Tegu |
| at what point do you need to replace stylii? when you start to get bad sound? and can old stylii/stylii that need to be replaced damage records? |
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| CraSHer[UK] |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tegu
at what point do you need to replace stylii? when you start to get bad sound? and can old stylii/stylii that need to be replaced damage records? |
I believe deterioration of sound is certainlly an indication, allough its very difficult to notice sound quality deterioration unless you have the same age styli on 3 different decks, and you rarley use the 3rd deck.
Otherwise with both styli degrading at the same rate, you have no benchmark for comparison.
I also believe there are other signs, such as your stylus attracting a significant amount of dust, and of course as a general rule a bedroom dj should be looking to change stylus, i'd hazard a guess, every 8 months or so (assuming something along the lines of 1-2 hrs a day). I however have never bought new carts and stylus till the otherday as i got my table second hands, so that 8month thing might be way way off, just a guess.
Someone will be able to tell you for sure though.
And yes i do believe an old stylus can increase wear on your records, as for damage, i think its all very neglible. |
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| Electrophile |
| You will notice more pops and louder hissing as your styli wear out, soon they start to skip over a groove on a back cue, those are the obvious signs. I usually change out my stylus every 3 months (i spin 3 hours a day 7 days a week) I use the Orotofon nightclub so it gets kind of pricey, but the sound quality and groove hold cant be beat! |
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| mzvirbulis |
| quote: | Originally posted by veezee
I dont know whats wrong, but let me tell you, i feel for you.. I just bought a pair of replacements for my 680's , and one jumps across the record all by itself.. it is pissing me off.. 100+ bucks down the drain.. !!
Jay |
mate have you tried putting more stylis pressure on because some vinyl in some parts of the song lose the groove and skip across the whole record or miss a groove, so what i did was add a bit more.
or is it a bit more complex than that for you,is it to do with stylis. |
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