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Please read this and tell my friend he is wrong (pg. 2)
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by criticalpath
What's up with all these trance threads lately?
- Why is it people associate all electronic music with techno and not trance?
- Please read this and tell my friend he is wrong
- Is trance dying?
- Is there such a thing as too much trance?
- Airplane Trance !!!!
Love all these HQ threads. :p |
Imagine Trance threads on Tranceaddict forums! Get away!:D |
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| DickieThijssen |
| call that a friend? ing kill the ing assraper and let him take ing eric prydz with him to hell (they prob play rnb there) |
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| Floorfiller |
1. you used crappy examples of good trance songs
2. "Call On Me" is basically a rip off of parts of older songs (still good though hehe) and really isn't that unique
3. just about all music today is made or processed in computers regardless of genre
4. fruityloops is a crappy sequencer in the world of music software
5. you're both idiots |
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| Leon Oziel |
| quote: | Originally posted by DragonsEmerald
n00bs
| quote: | Originally posted by DragonsEmerald
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
+1 |
Ur a n00b too. |
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haahaha... forgive me :tongue3 |
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| beats and beeps |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
My friend is talking - please correct him. He is 'Feanor' - and I am "What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?".
Feanor says:
hello
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
hello
Feanor says:
had to move a door for me mum there
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
ah right lol
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
now where were we?
Feanor says:
i cant be arsed discussing it
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Trance isnt the only type of music made on Fruityloops though
Feanor says:
yeah i know, u showed me that site with all the genres
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
and fruityloops is only one program used to make music
Feanor says:
yeah i have used more
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
surely all electronic music producers cant all have no musical skill
Feanor says:
i didnt say none, i said less
Feanor says:
or they may have just as much, but trance music doesnt reflect musical skill
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
im afriad you are wrong
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
some of the melodies in trance songs are brilliant
Feanor says:
what i am saying is, if the producers have loads of musical skill, then trance isnt the best way to display it
Feanor says:
melodies in a trance song vs. riffs and solo's on a guitar (LIVE), there is no comparison
Feanor says:
because the guitar is a lot harder
Feanor says:
it takes more skill
Feanor says:
and can be varied, unlike trance music, which shows very little variation
Feanor says:
beaten
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah true- but that isnt the issue though - it isnt possible to make a trance song live
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Trance has plenty of variation
Feanor says:
yeah again prooving my point, so little skill is involved
Feanor says:
i dont believe so
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
what if i was to say that Rock music had little variation because it is all guitars?
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
what about Eric Prydz - CAll on Me - that song you love so much - was any musical skill involved in that?
Feanor says:
it sounded different than most other dance songs - hence i liked it, but that isnt a trance song as u well know, and we are discussing trance. also about ur guitar comment, u are missing my point entirely, or are refusing to accept it
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
there are plenty of trance songs that sound different -- to be fair you cant judge as you only can name a few
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
how about I send you one?
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
and see what you think
Feanor says:
i have heards LOADS
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
do name them then
Feanor says:
u forget when i wa syounger i used to listen to trance
Feanor says:
Future Sound of London - Papua New Guinea
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
any more?
Feanor says:
that one isnt too bad actually
Feanor says:
Underworld - Born Slippy
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" sends:
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
listen to that
Sending of "08 Foreplay.mp3" to Feanor has failed.
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Born Slippy is not Trance
Feanor says:
Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes
Feanor says:
Faithless - Insomnia
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah thats Trance - but I happen to not like Motorcycle
Feanor says:
Oceanlab - Satellite
Feanor says:
its all e
Feanor says:
i have heard a lot more that i dont know the names of
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
listen - any can make a Trance Song - but it takes a lot to make a decent one
Feanor says:
u have prooven my point!! thanks
Feanor says:
u agreed
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah...that wasnt your point though
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
your point was that it doesnt take a lot of skill to make a track on Fruityloops
Feanor says:
yeah exactly
Feanor says:
hence any can do it
Feanor says:
case closed sunshine
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
which is true - but my point is that it take s a lot of skill to make a decent track
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
don t you agree?
Feanor says:
nope
Feanor says:
because simple tracks can be decent
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
like what?
Feanor says:
defeated
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah whatever
Feanor says:
haha u always know when someone is defeated when they reply 'whatever'
Feanor says:
they have notghin to say
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
im not defeated - the fact you no so little about Trance makes your argumetn stupid
Feanor says:
i know more about trance than u do about my music tho, funk, rock, metal etc
Feanor says:
so it puts me in a position to judge
Feanor says:
dee
Feanor says:
feeted
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
What about Funk music made on Electronic programs?
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
is it talentless?
Feanor says:
nope
Feanor says:
it takes skill because it is used with proper instruments
Feanor says:
lets just drop it
Feanor says:
u have lost
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Funk music with electronic programs numb nuts
Feanor says:
i dont want u to go to sleep crying
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
you know your argument is weightless
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
just you keep tellin yourself youve won
Feanor says:
but ur argument is weightless, u know so little about my music
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
and ill post this conv on a trance forum - so you can see the way your argument is defeated
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
but the argument is about Trance
Feanor says:
i know a bit about trance BECAUSE IV GIVEN IT A CHANCE
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
i am not saying that it doesnt take skill to make music you like
Feanor says:
therefore my opinions stand as viable arguments
Feanor says:
i said it takes less skill
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
just because you dont like a genre doesnt mean that you cant appreciate the talent and skill that goes into it
Feanor says:
but it is my belief that it doesnt take an extrodinary amount of talent to make that music
Feanor says:
and u have said nothin to make me change that belief as u are intent on disagreeing
Feanor says:
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
fair enough - but thats your belief
Feanor says:
thanks
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
if it doesnt take much to make a trance track then why dont you
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
why dont you get a track signed?
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
and get it played on AVB's radio show?
Feanor says:
u said urself, and can make a trance track
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah true
Feanor says:
well, i gtg here richard, it was lovely pissin u off
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
but i hardly think that any song you make on fruityloops will be igned by a record company
Feanor says:
likewise
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
leavin in the heat of the battle lol!
Feanor says:
im away to bed
Feanor says:
the battle has been won
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah prob truie about my taracks
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
but then you prove my piont
Feanor says:
see ya
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Feanor says:
Feanor says:
laters
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
bye
Feanor says:
bye
Feanor says:
ahahahahahahaaaaa
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
lol go and cry yourself to sleep
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1. When you post like this, you edit the names, to be simple, so that the conversation is easier to read. Better yet you dont have names, you colour code what each person says.
2. You ing pirate.
3. I didnt read it, but your friend is probably right.
4. You clown. |
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| DjArTiN! |
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
Just tell him to piss off. I promise you, there is no convincing him he's wrong about anything. I've tried like a billion times, and I've figured out what you should. There is no point.
The fact that something is easy to do doesn't automatically make it worse than anything else. If anyone can make a decent tune then great, technology has done this by giving us the tools to make it happen. It's not like text on paper was so much better before than they are now, thanks to the typewriter/computer. How about computerized art/pictures? There are so many things you can do on a computer that you cant with a brush or a pencil, and a computer can almost imitate any form of brushes etc. Of course, it doesn't replace the old way, but it's certainly not any "less good"?
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+1 Good Point. |
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| Geoff |
| quote: | Originally posted by n0bben
gotta hate the "nicknames" people use on MSN |
yea wtf, for a while there i thought he was just repeating himself saying "What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?"
i only skimmed like the first 15 lines but i think it's like
while(true) {
person1.out.println("i like this song");
person2.out.println("that song sucks, ur stupid");
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| bass.exe |
ok I read about a quarter of it, but your screename sucks and I was getting really confused/bored/strained from readin, but I got the general jist of it.
IMO your friend is right. |
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| Lira |
| Your friend is right. |
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| dj_lane |
| Is he a 60 year old dj who plays "funky Haus" in newark, New Jersey? I new someone who used a nick called Feanor |
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| r5a |
Long read, your friend is an idiot.
Bascially, it's another dick wagging contest, each to their own. He and you can listen to whatever they like, if you get beef to what you listen to, ingore it. I used to deal with the same every day (still do a bit) just ingore it or put it aside, it'll go away eventually. Besides, who really gives a anyways? |
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| tribu |
Its a matter of apples and oranges.
He thinks he's right because he places a higher value on maunal skill, suck as pickng and fret use. Guitar playing is tough, but most contemporary guitar plays memorize chords and strum. A few others might show off their fretting while playing weak music. A unique few have skills with both, and come to be known as the generation's greatest. Point out that your friend is listening to no one who is doing anything new. Theyre all ripping off someone else in an attempt to get rich.
Meanwhile, the same thing is going on in trance music: People pumping out assembly line tunes to become rich, while a population gobbles it all up hoping to be counter culture (counter-culture has always been "cool", but as American cultures chews things up faster and faster, it is becoming increasingly harder to be counter to anything, or to be a part of something culture hasn't spit out). Some trance artists create ingenious beats and melodies. Other trance creators make incredible sounds and provide memorable moments with their engineering. There are also a select few who can do both, outside of any musical context, and these become our generation's landmarks. This is due to your higher value on the ability to organize: A trance producer must compose a song for every instrument, while perfecting (or in many cases, tweaking) sounds for use. This doesnt take much manual skill, but is arguably more thought provoking.
Either way, it's making music, and if the music fits your mood or the general atmosphere, what's the problem? |
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