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Mixing and Beatmatching
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| fr3sh |
Just picked my decks up last week i got the mk2's... and i have never spun vinyl before... i have been doing some serious practicing though but still having trouble with mixing and beatmatching.... ARG... difficult to tell which one is going faster..
as far as mixing is concerned i suppose that just takes time to develop an ear for when to fade in and at what frequencies etc
anyone have any tips on beatmatching and mixing? |
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| Basstard |
| here's a tip: learn how to look at other messages on a forum. ya wuldnt even need to do a search coz theres like 4 other threads abt mixing on this first page alone. i've a headache thats why im so bitchy 2nite! |
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| fr3sh |
haha ok can you link me to a thread please
thanks |
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| bokus |
| Took me 6 months to learn how to beat match and now i can do it within 20 seconds. Preety soon you will notice if the beat is slower or faster. Its not like a regular instrument. If I spent as much time as I did with my guitar that I did with my turntables I would have stair way to heavan, and Black Magic Woman DOWN!. Comes faster or slower for each person. I know a kid who has been spinning for a year and a half more then me and im better then him. |
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| Tony Morello |
| just keep practicing until it's second nature |
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| i got big pants |
as everybody said...practice practice, practice.
It took me about 4-6 months to beatmatch pretty well. Granted, in that span on months, there were sometimes where I didn't touch my tables for a good few weeks. anyways...it will all come eventually. keep at it, you can do it :) |
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| Basstard |
| recording urself is also useful as you can hear where u've went wrong and you learn what areas you need to improve in. i got beatmatching down pretty fast but i still find myself improving in areas 4 years on. if i listen to mixes i did 2 years ago i feel like they are bollocks whereas at the time i thought i was the next van dyk ;) |
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| mzvirbulis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
just keep practicing until it's second nature |
thats right we all should teach ourselves, it took me about 6 weeks every night after school for 4 hours before i could keep the songs without drifting.
and u also develop an ear for which record is slower it becomes second nature. now i can beatmatch on the fly if need be.
please it all comes down to PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only way. |
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| Exodus17 |
+1 more on practice
no one ever gets it right off the bat
since its brand new to you theres no use in trying to jump ahead of the game and get into all the really detailed stuff
with DJing its like any other instrument, gotta take baby steps at first, if you try to start running before you can walk you're gonna fall down and get upset - where alot of beginners throw in the towel
im no expert by any means but this is the pretty simple stuff that alot of beginners overlook when learning to beatmatch - most (im guilty as well) just go str8 for the matching... that is, we set the needle on, let it play and the primary goal is for the beats to match, you get them somewhat matched and try to do your mix right there by either crossing over or raising the upfader, problem is, as youll notice, it seems like everythings happening at random times and it sounds embarassingly painfull, congrajulations on teaching yourself Trainwrecking 101 - Choo Choo!
-this part took me a good month or two to figure out when i realized, "hey, maybe it helps to wait before i start trying to match"
so here it is -
Learning to walk:)
trance, house, dnb, techno, whatever you're spinning more than likely has a 4/4 beat structure which is pretty cool because if you have the right idea, it isnt too hard to get down at all and you'll slap yourself for not having thought about it before
Phrase matching- basic idea
cue up a track and youll notice that if you count 8 beats 4 times (32 beats) theres usually something that happens right after that last (32nd) beat... like a hi hat or a crash symbol or synth or deeper bass kick...
that 33rd beat is were alot of things start/stop/change/do something diff
simplest way to not get lost while counting beats is to just count to 8 and keep in mind how many times youve hit 8, its pretty confusing to count all the way out to 32 when youre trying to listen to two diff tracks at the same time:crazy:
anyways... find the first beat of track 2 and hold it, helps to push it back and fourth some under the needle so you can hear that youve got it where you want it
with the first beat of track 2 in mind/on hand wait for that 4th count to 8 on the playing track and let track 2 go right after you hit that last 8....
....4, 5, 6, 7, 8, go!
if that made any sense whatsoever and if you did it right you'll find that all your little hi hats and other changes happen at the same time on both tracks assuming you have them matched with the pitch adj
some ppl pinch the spindle alittle to slow down a track and then make adjustments to the pitch fader, some go str8 for the pitch to slow it down/speed it up as needed, its prolly best to teach yourself to ride the pitch right from the start so that you dont end up teaching yourself 5 diff ways of controling the speed to end up riding the pitch anyways - like me, i had a bad habit of neglecting the pitch and keeping a finger on the record to slow it down/speed it up... my excuse is i have belt drive cheapo decks and i question the reliability of my pitch faders:conf:
for the most part there are no wrong ways to go about DJing, however there are some things that are indeed not how you do something
so practice makes perfect, only if you are practicing correctly, otherwise you become very good at doing it wrong
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| Breeze |
| It wont happen over night but you will eventually get there. practice as much as you can. |
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