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| Jayx1 |
So the Ontario Liberal party promised us change.
What has changed? Taxes have gone up. More restrictions on our lifestyle than ever. More user fees. Higher tuition
What hasnt changed? The nurses are still bitching about the government. The teachers are still bitching about the government. The students are still bitching about the government. More services in health care are being cut. More social programs are being cut.
So basically what we have now are all the cuts, protests and bad stuff that we had with the tories but with higher taxes and a government who acts like our legal guardian.
My question is, if taxes are up and services are down where is all that extra money going to????
Higher taxes = fewer services? only in McGuintyland! |
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| drgoodvibe |
| wasn't there a tuition freeze? For the next two years. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by drgoodvibe
wasn't there a tuition freeze? For the next two years. |
Not if bob rae's recommendations goes through. didnt you see them all protesting last week? (as they should)
At least under harris we got tax cuts along with service cuts and a balanced budget. All we get with these guys is higher taxes, debt, and fewer services.
(and parental guidance) |
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| drgoodvibe |
last time I checked there wasn't a balanced budget. 5 billion debt = balance budget?
and as for Tution so far the mandate is that there is a 2 year freeze on tuition whether it goes up after that is to be determined. Don't whine about something that could happen in the future, we already have a freeze just like they promised. |
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| j_spot |
rae is reccomending that the 2 year freeze be lifted if universities can show that teh tuition hike is needed. Its complete BS. Making education only for the super rich, and you only get rich with an education.
I do think PS education should be a giant financial burden, it weeds people out but its getting rediculous |
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| RobbyG. |
No TTC funding + rebuidling of buses = Mike Harrisland
I'm really pissed about what Maguinty has done but don't think that if John Tory comes to power that he'll be the ultimiate "angel" of a politician either.:whip: |
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| ShadoWolf |
We actually need HIGHER tuitions like in the U.S. In exchange, we need far more student financial aid.
In the U.S., tutitions are high. But that serves a very good purpose - it forces the rich to plow money into the system. That money then gets redistributed through financial aid, which is FAR AND AWAY more than what exists in Canada.
In Canada, however, low tuitions mean that the poor subsidize the rich, since everyone pays the same low fee. |
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| amb_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
At least under harris... |
That's one of the main issues at play. We endured the rule of Ernie Eves, one of the most wasteful Tory premiers Ontario has ever seen. His biggest feat? The 2003 Budget, released in a vacuum, outside of the scrunity of legislature... While technically "balanced", it fell just short of book-cooking and invoked official rulings to prevent its release.
Ernie's married-into-money lawyer background shone through for Ontarians and today we continue to feel the sting... ************ of the current party in power.
But I'm sure you had that in mind while you graced us with another one of your Liberal-blasting threads. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| Ernie Eves is a liberal. |
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| amb_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Ernie Eves is a liberal. |
He's far worse.
What does little to instill confidence is that the party handed over the reins as Mike Harris' successor, much to the detriment of the province. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RobbyG.
No TTC funding + rebuidling of buses = Mike Harrisland
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And what exactly is Mcguinty doing? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by amb_
That's one of the main issues at play. We endured the rule of Ernie Eves, one of the most wasteful Tory premiers Ontario has ever seen. His biggest feat? The 2003 Budget, released in a vacuum, outside of the scrunity of legislature... While technically "balanced", it fell just short of book-cooking and invoked official rulings to prevent its release.
Ernie's married-into-money lawyer background shone through for Ontarians and today we continue to feel the sting... ************ of the current party in power.
But I'm sure you had that in mind while you graced us with another one of your Liberal-blasting threads. |
I didnt like Eves much compared to Harris either but he was far better than what we have now. |
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