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How do you prevent yourself from dissapearing up your own arse?
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| Axolotyl |
Just wondering how you guys deal with that vicious circle of complete non-productivity. I spent about 5 hours last night working on a track and just ended up reverting back to the one I started on because I worked everything in a totally different(and ultimately crapola)direction. I think it came down to having too many ideas and trying to impliment them in the wrong places. At the end I felt drained and depressed.:nervous:
So is it just down to experience, discipline, or do you guys have methods and /or rules you follow when writing a track? |
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| Limit |
| one thing I find here a lot is people are always looking for rules and regulations...that defies music as we know it! just work in a way that pleases you and doesn't turn it into work. I know your looking for some tips here but realistically when working on a track there is no 1 set way to go about it. Sometimes I'll start out with just a bassline and no kicks or perc, or soemtimes I'll start out with a good kick, melody, or pad. Do whatever inspires you. Just one thing I can say is that when you are a a certain point and you think you are stuck or simply just putting way too much effort into it and not going anywhere, just stop and work on a whole different section....who knows you might find yourself making something worth while and oddly enough, your possibel solution to what you were working on before. |
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| Axolotyl |
Cheers, thanks limit, good advice there.
I've read some production tutorials where they talk about allowing a brainstorming period where you lay down rough ideas for structure and hooks to the track. And that getting the structure and melody of the track is all important before workin on anything related to the actual engineering of the sound. That way the creative part of the brain doesnt get impared by the (semi) logical process of constant filter and effect tweaking.
Anyway, thanks for the advice =) It is an organic process, but even in chaos there must be some order. I guess thats what I'm trying to find. |
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| kaymak |
I find that simplicity is the key,
I usually finish a track with just the basics , kik, off hat, baseline, melody and pads, when i'm satisfied all those basic elements are alright i the start polishing (acids, fills, perc....etc),
that way you have the tune finished and you have a good idea of what direction you want the track to go |
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| Rob |
Seperating the sound engineering and sound design aspect from the composition aspect is what I think alot of people have difficutly with (including me).
You should devote alot of time to just creating leads, bassline, percs etc. as apposed to starting a track and expecting to create them while you're working on the tracks composition.
Once you have great sounds, it's much easier to create great compositions because you're getting inspiration from the great sounds you've created.
With that being said, I've made tracks where I lay down a kick, a muddy bassline, a crap lead, and simply focus on getting the composition right. When I'm in this frame of mind, I don't care about how anything sounds. Once I'm happy with the composition, I come back a few days later to eq everything and get it sounding as tight as possible. Then I come back a few days later just to make sure I didn't really stuff something up. |
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| alanzo |
butt-plugs
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| DJ Twenty |
| quote: | Originally posted by kaymak
I find that simplicity is the key,
I usually finish a track with just the basics , kik, off hat, baseline, melody and pads, when i'm satisfied all those basic elements are alright i the start polishing (acids, fills, perc....etc),
that way you have the tune finished and you have a good idea of what direction you want the track to go |
I agree with this method entirely! |
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| KilldaDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by alanzo
butt-plugs
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why waste money on expensive butt-plugs?
a inexpensive cork from one of your favorite wines will do the trick!
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| krivi |
| just have some sleep and wake up and try to produce...that works for me |
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| Axolotyl |
OK, well I'll cork my ass and see if that helps any =) :clown:
So far I've been doing a lot of what you recommend and I can see how it would work creating the individual melodies, basslines, percs. I think the issue is more about stopping myself from going back and re-writing the bits I've already done once I've layed them all down. Or atleast spend longer writing the individual parts before moving onto arrangement and then engineering. I always seem to jump straight to filter and EQ tweaking for some reason...
Thnx dudes.. |
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| aquila |
| If you find yourself getting stuck, try some metamucil. |
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| Axolotyl |
| Agreed. More fibre is always good =) |
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