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| electronicmaji2 |
the goverment does not have the right to bless the union between a man and a man they do not have the right to accept such a beleif or to rewrite the meaning of marriage
misteropus your last post was complete utter ignorance and bull im ignoring at and you have found your way onto my ignore list |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
the goverment does not have the right to bless the union between a man and a man they do not have the right to accept such a beleif or to rewrite the meaning of marriage |
Well you seemingly continue to step right over your rationale in believing the government somehow has this right. Are you ever going to answer this question?
| quote: | | misteropus your last post was complete utter ignorance and bull im ignoring at and you have found your way onto my ignore list |
Does this mean you won't be inviting me to your birthday parties anymore? I can't even get a balloon? You poor fella - I hope I didn't hurt any feelings. You could, however, drop the ignorance bull yourself and address my specific refutations of your points made. That would entail a bit of debate and intellectual courtesy on your part - which may be difficult but I have faith that you can do it.;) |
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| electronicmaji2 |
and again even if people are born gay which they are not and its further proved by the fact that you dont know two cents about science you have not answered my statement
so what humans are born horny it still makes premarital sex and YES masturbation a sin. We can still control our actions and so can so called homosexaul
homosexaulity is about what type of person you like to sleep with thats all it boils down to outside of that there is very little different from a homosexaul liberal and a straight liberal
you may say that they have a certain lifestyle...ever heard of metrosexauls even they can use such a lifestyle without being homosexaul
so again all it boils down to is sex
homosexaul couplesin todays world should not receive any benefits from a secular socialist poitn off view.........because why do we give married couples advantages in the first place because they give back to the earth
they procreate
the main reason for sex is procreation so is the main reason for marriage therefore in giving back something to the united states of america, strong, healthy young children that they produced or have the capability of producing we give them benefits
homosexauls are unable to and never will be able to procreate
they give nothing back
they deserve nothing in return |
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| electronicmaji2 |
oh my mister liberal is so nice
this is why nobody likes you your mean
thats why were gonna kick you out of the united states and go to canada
then were gonna nuke canada
you can say whatever you want
but you have to pay the consquences :haha:
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| wolverine16 |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
the goverment does not have the right to bless the union between a man and a man they do not have the right to accept such a beleif or to rewrite the meaning of marriage
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But you argued that the government is a secular body when it comes to promoting healthcare and helping the poor as a Christian cause, which you even agreed was a Christian thing, yet you're arguing that the government is not a secular body when it comes to preventing two people of the same sex from getting a CIVIL marriage, which not everyone even agrees Jesus stated he was against. You're saying that the government should enforce a law against people based on your religious beliefs, which is not something a secular government can do. |
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| wolverine16 |
| And furthermore how do you legislate based on Christian beliefs anyway? Do we do it based on Catholic, Episcopalian, Evangelical, Mormon, Pentacostal, etc? There's many different sects because they interpret the religion differently, so who are you to say which one is right? |
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| electronicmaji2 |
I never said christian I said moral
the majority of people in the nation beleive gay marriage is wrong
therefore it is immoral
either way what right does the state have to bless a homosexual union you tell me that
i never said anything about christianity |
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| electronicmaji2 |
and the only one that doesnt beleive that the bible doesnt talk about gay marriage is the liberal troll whos not even remotely christian
to quote one of my favorite djs
youve been invaded by the socialistic pro here to infiltrate your radio and disco my people to to barricade and cant succeed im injected with the dna to stampede so its the same purpose same type of gender same call to brawl with the enemies of the leverer ...from nashville to cape town we enter all points with plans to break down... |
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| wolverine16 |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
I never said christian I said moral
the majority of people in the nation beleive gay marriage is wrong
therefore it is immoral
either way what right does the state have to bless a homosexual union you tell me that
i never said anything about christianity |
So whatever the majority of people think is moral? I guess the Nazis were justified in the 30s & 40s and slavery was perfectly fine here. Brown vs. Board of Education should be overturned as well since segregation was accepted at the time and therefore moral, right? In any case you just said that the government doesn't decide what is moral, so why would they determine who can have a civil marriage based on morality in your view? A civil marriage is not the same thing as a religious marriage. There's nothing to "bless" in a civil union between 2 people, it is meant to give them equal rights under the law for things like inheritance, hospital visits, etc. Even athiests get married everyday in this country in the eyes of the law.
You're trying to turn the tables around, the question is really what right does the government have to prevent them from getting married if they allow it for other people? You tell me that. The burden is on the government to rationalize why they should have the right to prevent individuals having some sort of freedom, not the other way around. I thought conservatives wanted freedom from government interferring in their private lives? Obviously there are exceptions when people don't live their lives like you would. And actually you said a lot about Christianity in your various arguments with Opus throughout this thread. |
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| wolverine16 |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
and the only one that doesnt beleive that the bible doesnt talk about gay marriage is the liberal troll whos not even remotely christian
to quote one of my favorite djs
youve been invaded by the socialistic pro here to infiltrate your radio and disco my people to to barricade and cant succeed im injected with the dna to stampede so its the same purpose same type of gender same call to brawl with the enemies of the leverer ...from nashville to cape town we enter all points with plans to break down... |
Were you aware that there are different interpretations of what the Bible says and there are even some contradictions? Where does Paul stand exactly on the rights of women for instance? Does he believe they cannot speak at all in Church and have no position like he says in the 1st letter to the Corinthians or does he see them as active members of the Church spreading the name of Jesus, like in Romans? Look at how the bible came together amongst many different groups of Christians and understand that not everyone interprets it the same way, especially since there are contradictions, before you label people as unholy compared to you. |
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| electronicmaji2 |
| quote: |
You're trying to turn the tables around, the question is really what right does the government have to prevent them from getting married if they allow it for other people? You tell me that. The burden is on the government to rationalize why they should have the right to prevent individuals having some sort of freedom, not the other way around. I thought conservatives wanted freedom from government interferring in their private lives? Obviously there are exceptions when people don't live their lives like you would. And actually you said a lot about Christianity in your various arguments with Opus throughout this thread. |
no one ever said they couldnt get married
they can get married they just cant get a marriage license of marry in a state building
marriage is not a right i think you need to go read the bill of rights again ...
they have the right to marry as much as any other person in a state building and getting a marriage license as long as they marry
marriage is a union between a man and a women nothing else can be called it...
| quote: | | Were you aware that there are different interpretations of what the Bible says and there are even some contradictions? Where does Paul stand exactly on the rights of women for instance? Does he believe they cannot speak at all in Church and have no position like he says in the 1st letter to the Corinthians or does he see them as active members of the Church spreading the name of Jesus, like in Romans? Look at how the bible came together amongst many different groups of Christians and understand that not everyone interprets it the same way before you label people |
point being ? point being moot were not here to debate the interpretation of the bible.. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
oh my mister liberal is so nice
this is why nobody likes you your mean
thats why were gonna kick you out of the united states and go to canada
then were gonna nuke canada
you can say whatever you want
but you have to pay the consquences :haha:
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Has anyone seen your argument lately? It seems you've lost it a bit.
And BTW, weren't you banned before posting as Electronicmaji or something? What happened to you, and are the Mods aware that you're back? Will you behave this time around? |
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