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| Nyquist_Theorem |
I should also point out that if you think Ontario is anywhere near bad in terms of what's illegal and whats not - at least compared to its cultural cousins the US, NZ, and Australia - you are spending too much time with your head in a glue-filled bag. :p
*wishes australia would ditch its own legal system and adopt canada's instead* |
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| Euphoric_Madman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paulie
the only people that have problem with this sort of identity, are the people from the middle east, the lebanese, and people from the Balkans. This is an inherant problem as really their have no real country, either over tehre or over here. |
WTF Man, I'll F*ucken stab you kunt :p
Ma-ke-donia, Ma-ke-donia, Ma-ke-donia :stongue: |
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| DIDI |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nyquist_Theorem
wow, interesting thread here. im a canadian thats been living in melb for the past three years (and the next thirty if i can convince the nice girl behind the counter at DIMIA to let me stay), having previously lived in downtown toronto (queen & leslie, but worked at queen & spadina).
in answer to your question, the answer is 'of course' - in both/any country. canada and australia (which, incidentally, are the two most sociopolitically similar non-geographically-proximate countries in the world according to a recent study that came out of melb uni's politics dept) are both nations of imimgrants; while canada is 'more multicultural' in terms of numbers of foreign-born residents (from memory toronto has the 2nd highest % of foreign-born residents behind miami, which has a zillion cuban-born residents), there is also within canada a large base of 5+ generation canadians as a result of canada's having been settled ~200 years prior to australia. in other words, canada's got more immigrants, but a LOT of australians are only 1-2 generations away from a foreign-born relative, compared to many less in canada. (still on first coffee sorry if this is crap)
that said, there appears to be much greater pressure on immigrants here in australia to 'conform', much like the US 'melting pot' multicultural policy; the fact that australia handles multicultural affairs (and indeed even indigenous issues!) through its immigration dept is interesting to note, as was its post sept-11 citizenship-promotion slogan, which ominously claimed "there's never been a better time to be an australian citizen!" some cultures have acheived a critical mass enough to have their own identity (italian specifically comes to mind, esp for me living just off lygon) but otherwise, i'd say there is much greater cultural homogeneity in melbourne than there is in toronto.
look at the number of chinese-born residents in both cities, for example, and compare that to the size of the 'chinatown' in both; toronto's is MASSIVE, whereas melb's got a couple little lumps here and there but nothing remotely similar; also look at the popularity of foriegn-signage in both cities: in toronto, major corporations such as mcdonalds, royal bank, etc all have their signage in chinese, whereas in melb i'd imagine there would be a civil war if such were to appear.
also of interest (and perhaps one of the catalysts for the more rapid absorbtion of foreign culture here) is the latent xenophobia that seems to permeate so much of australian culture and society... i don't mean to insult any of the aussies on here (as do not get me wrong i freaking love this country) but australia really is a country that, at least compared to the others in which ive lived, looks at visibly-foreign people as 'outsiders' regardless of their citizenship.
i could crap on endlessly about this but doubt anyone's read this far as it is. if this is for a school assignment or if you want any other ideas / sources / whatever let me know, its an area with which i'm pretty familiar bc of my work. :) |
Great, really interesting post. Hope you get to stay. We need more like you even if only for your taste in music.:) |
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| Nyquist_Theorem |
| quote: | Originally posted by DIDI
Great, really interesting post. Hope you get to stay. We need more like you even if only for your taste in music.:) |
aww, thanks man! ive just bought decks - so im here for life! :D
curse you, ben evans! *shakes fist at the sky* |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nyquist_Theorem
I should also point out that if you think Ontario is anywhere near bad in terms of what's illegal and whats not - at least compared to its cultural cousins the US, NZ, and Australia - you are spending too much time with your head in a glue-filled bag. :p
*wishes australia would ditch its own legal system and adopt canada's instead* |
You obviously havnt been here since Mcguinty took over LOL
What time are clubs forced to stop serving booze there?
One thing to note is how EVERYONE has australian flags in this thread. In Canada even Canadian born people would have flags from all over the place. |
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| Paulie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Euphoric_Madman
WTF Man, I'll F*ucken stab you kunt :p
Ma-ke-donia, Ma-ke-donia, Ma-ke-donia :stongue: |
Admit bro you got owned lol
just like Preston will against South :p |
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| töbias |
I'm a first generation Aussie.
If 0 is an akubra wearing, Aussie battler, blue wife beaters, cricket loving, steak with 3 veg, yobbo, bogan, culture less, convict relative with little style or taste.
And 100 is a person born in Australia that hates Australia, has never eaten a meat pie or tasted Aussie culture, wished they were in another country, talks about another country, didn't speak English until they were at school kind of person.
Then I'm about 50.... |
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| Euphoric_Madman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paulie
Admit bro you got owned lol
just like Preston will against South :p |
LOL you going to the game paulie?? |
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| sLiCk_NiCk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paulie
Admit bro you got owned lol
just like Preston will against South :p |
w3rd! |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
You obviously havnt been here since Mcguinty took over LOL
What time are clubs forced to stop serving booze there?
One thing to note is how EVERYONE has australian flags in this thread. In Canada even Canadian born people would have flags from all over the place. |
They don't have a last call jay.
And who cares what flag's in their avatar. I was raised like a croat, but I was born in Canada. It doesn't mean I don't appreciate Canada, in fact I love it, even in the winter, but posting primarily on a Toronto forum where we have so much diversity in the city I thought it would be ok to show and be prowd of mine. Apparently TOTAs prime minister is a xenophobe. |
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| sLiCk_NiCk |
like me and the greek flag :)
its not wrong to be proud of where you originated from
even if u were born in oz |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
Apparently TOTAs prime minister is a xenophobe. |
Not at all. Im just upset that our own country is not respected by those who are born here. If i were a xenophobe i wouldnt be proud of the fact that we are very accepting to immigrants. I also wouldnt be calling on Canadians to adopt the many great ideas of other nations (such as abolishing last call)
Sadly when someone stands up for Canada they are instantly labelled "racist", "xenophobe" or some other nonsense.
PS: hey aussies, your society hasnt collapsed into a drunken stupor and ceased to exist since you dont have last call right? I wish you could convey that to north america. We seem to think that 2 am last call is essential to keeping law and order and civility. :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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