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| Project 7 |
Ive always had problems creating transitions
Check out my new track Reflekt - Need To Be Loved (SubSun Remix) to witness lol
Anyways anybody have any cool samples for use or any help
i need something to help me create a decent one
btw dont start whoring, it may sound n00bish but... |
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| Rodas |
Just wondering, how long have you been producing? Not long?
About your song, you need to do more than worry about transitions =p..
What I mean is that you have your 16 bar sequence just looping until you finally have your main hook come in. Your clap is off beat in the begining which is also not very dj friendly (if this is what you're trying to create). Off beats are fine but I'd recommend you placing it in the middle only if you really need it. Having them in the begining and end really put the listener off and will mess up transitioning between as well.
Also, you don't break (having a two beat break, etc). It's just the 16 bar loops. Your kick is also a bit too loud. Bring the chorus up a bit more.
To improove on transitions I'd say try to use much more samples and layer with them much much more than you are here. It sounds ike your only using about four to five percussion samples, try to find more abstract sounds and mix them up then just having them come on beat with your kick. Try it and it will definitly improove on your sound as a whole. Also try to have your sounds not loop for so long.. Instead, bring things in slowly (thirty, fifteen second intervals, whichever).
Also, I'd advice you to learn how to use some synths which can output white noise, learn where to place them in order to use them as transition points. Learn how to filter.
Also learn how to emphasize on panning your sounds to left and right channels so everything is not so centered (as it is here).. Paning will definitly give you better sound quality as a whole.
Hope I could help.
Rodas |
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| Project 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodas
Just wondering, how long have you been producing? Not long?
About your song, you need to do more than worry about transitions =p..
What I mean is that you have your 16 bar sequence just looping until you finally have your main hook come in. Your clap is off beat in the begining which is also not very dj friendly (if this is what you're trying to create). Off beats are fine but I'd recommend you placing it in the middle only if you really need it. Having them in the begining and end really put the listener off and will mess up transitioning between as well.
Also, you don't break (having a two beat break, etc). It's just the 16 bar loops. Your kick is also a bit too loud. Bring the chorus up a bit more.
To improove on transitions I'd say try to use much more samples and layer with them much much more than you are here. It sounds ike your only using about four to five percussion samples, try to find more abstract sounds and mix them up then just having them come on beat with your kick. Try it and it will definitly improove on your sound as a whole. Also try to have your sounds not loop for so long.. Instead, bring things in slowly (thirty, fifteen second intervals, whichever).
Also, I'd advice you to learn how to use some synths which can output white noise, learn where to place them in order to use them as transition points. Learn how to filter.
Also learn how to emphasize on panning your sounds to left and right channels so everything is not so centered (as it is here).. Paning will definitly give you better sound quality as a whole.
Hope I could help.
Rodas |
wow thanks for your help, theres some good advice there (well it sounds so lol), im trying to improve the mix at the moment, so once done i'll let you know
ive been producing for only a couple of months (well stuff that i dont get someone else to do it with me anyway) |
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| TXHARP |
The Trance Fusion sample CD by Ilio focuses on transitional sounds. However, as previously stated, transitional sounds can be create with white noise.
Ted |
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| noreliq |
| could u guys give a more detailed explanation (maybe link to a sample track?) on this use of white noise as a transition...its the 1st im hearing of it... |
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| Derivative |
im assuming you mean whitenoise as in an oscillator waveform?
using whitenoise as the waveform in vanguard is really good for making effects such as wind blowing type noises or sweeps and swells. so i would build a series of sweeps and swells out of various vanguard FX automate the filter cutoffs on my lead to bring them in and out. basically the idea is to have no point in your track where things go dead and it becomes apparant you are listening to a a phrase looping round. there should always be something coming in as something else kind of goes out. like DJing a seamless set. so if you have 4 phrases which make up an overall movement, then a breakdown. one way of doing this would be to start with the filter cutoff fully closed then bring it in slowly so that its fully open after 2 phrases. the introduce a low level white noise swell and bring the resonance up on the filtered synth till it has a bit of bite. by the start of the 4th phrase quickly bring down the cutoff on the synth lead to it drops out suddenly and introduce a snare roll and a swirlly effects type thing so that it climaxes in this orgy of noise. then hits with a reverbed kick marking the end of the movement. theres always got to be stuff going on. stuff moving. fading in and out, sweeping in and out. some slow. some VERY slow. some faster. the idea is to create this sense of kinetic energy with your instruments. you dont get that when its obvious stuff is just looping. |
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