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in American animals :mad:
Then they bitch about why everyone in Iraq wants to blow them up.:o |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blue Balls
Iraq Check Points
Did you know that check point areas on Iraq roads are not known by Iraqi drivers. No signs. No warnings.
Standard protcol that American Soliders use to warn or signal a check point is to shoot in the air upon the oncoming car/traffic. If the car does not stop or slow down after the 'warning' shot, soliders are advised to shot the car and/or the driver.
I did not beleive this myself until I saw this practice on TV!
I was watching a PBS documentary on the war in Iraq and they showed numerous american solider doing this at various check points.
My personaly reaction was ' Wow I can't believe they spent 80 billion dollars on this war but could not buy road signs that say in the Iraqi language WARNING CHECK POINT AHEAD SLOW DOWN etc. or something you would typically see on road to warn drivers to slow down etc.'
Are these people in the army that ing stupid. Seriously. What if you were an Iraqi driving your car. how the are they supposed to know that gun fire means slow down or stop!!!
Recently , an Italian CIA agent was killed because of this STUPID policy that the American Army is using at check points.
I guess the stupidity in the white house has manifested itself on the battle feild. Amazing! |
Well, I guess this explains it then. Really a brilliant policy. |
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| josh4 |
^ you're in PDD
sources or stfu |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
I think this proves that it is very easy to get shot in Iraq for no reason whatsoever. |
Altho I doesn't help when your reason for being in Iraq is to expose US WMD use in Fallujah! |
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| NeoPhono |
Give me a break...she's a journalist.
1. She was in Iraq, a place in which her government told her not to go.
2. She set out with the mission of "showing the real Iraq, not the Iraq shown on TV with it's "false" elections, and fake American signs of hope."
3. She was kidnapped, during which she was "given" prophecies that the Americans would "not be happy" with her return.
4. Upon release, she was shot at, for unknown reasons, by Americans at a checkpoint.
This is the kind of stuff that can make a career, to think she's not going to milk this for everything it's worth is a joke. What happened at the checkpoint will remain a mystery as long as it's keeping her in the spotlight. She's going to make millions out of her "ordeal" and if she can milk a few more million out by bending the truth in her favor, you can bet she will. She set out to show the "evils" of America in Iraq, and right now she's still on her mission. |
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| JM |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
If the soldiers are accurately describing what happened, they didn't stop at the check point, then firing at the car was justified. |
heh. for once i agree with you.
:)
>JM< |
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| JM |
oh , if by now they dont know to stop when they hear shots while driving on a road, and seeing a ton of American soldiers ahead, then I too will assume they got bombs in that car, and are driving towards the soldiers on a suicide mission.
the shots were justified. end of story. too bad for the injured italian, its the risk you take when you go report news in the middle of a war and dont know what the hell is going on.
>JM< |
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| Dj_Irish |
| quote: | Originally posted by JM
oh , if by now they dont know to stop when they hear shots while driving on a road, and seeing a ton of American soldiers ahead, then I too will assume they got bombs in that car, and are driving towards the soldiers on a suicide mission.
the shots were justified. end of story. too bad for the injured italian, its the risk you take when you go report news in the middle of a war and dont know what the hell is going on.
>JM< |
Who said there where "tons of american soldiers ahead". Don't many checkpoints have only 2-3 soldiers?
Plus, the driver said they were only going in 45-50 km/h which can't be considered very fast.
Even so, I have a hard time believing this was some deliberate plot by the US forces in Iraq. Don't really care much about conspiracy theories. My take on it is that it was most probably a misstake. The guards screwed up somehow. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj_Irish
Who said there where "tons of american soldiers ahead". Don't many checkpoints have only 2-3 soldiers?
Plus, the driver said they were only going in 45-50 km/h which can't be considered very fast.
Even so, I have a hard time believing this was some deliberate plot by the US forces in Iraq. Don't really care much about conspiracy theories. My take on it is that it was most probably a misstake. The guards screwed up somehow. |
No idea whether its a conspiracy but its dodgy as and something is being covered up (also it is emerging the "offical" line as first reported is being constantly unravelled - there was no check point, nobody told them to slow down, etc) |
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| Jackson |
| quote: | Originally posted by JM
too bad for the injured italian
>JM< |
Dead Italian. |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj_Irish
Even so, I have a hard time believing this was some deliberate plot by the US forces in Iraq. Don't really care much about conspiracy theories. My take on it is that it was most probably a misstake. The guards screwed up somehow. |
Yea, if there was no offical line, judging from the autopcy I would have said the car simply stumbled into a crossfire (which would explain a good reason to speed, and why the car could continue to the airport after it was shot at, and why only one bullet hit the car) and was not the target of anything.
But I do know I don't believe the commie journalist, but I don't believe the official line either. But I don't know if there is an official line, has the Pentagon really publicly commented on this matter? |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
No idea whether its a conspiracy but its dodgy as and something is being covered up (also it is emerging the "offical" line as first reported is being constantly unravelled - there was no check point, nobody told them to slow down, etc) |
The number of times the administration has been caught covering up and lying, makes it difficult to believe anything they say. The best-case scenario it was a trigger-happy patrol that made a mistake and at worst it was planned ambush to eliminate an "unfriendly" journalist. Maybe the soldiers were told dangerous terrorist were headed their way and to stop them using whatever force necessary. This way it would look like an accident. All of this is speculation but the US owes Italy and the victims an apology, reparations, and soldiers actions should be investigated and punished if found negligent. Why does the US always have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do the right thing? |
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