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Do you Record your Hardware Synth in Mono or Stereo?
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| Pappa |
How do most of you peeps audition and record your hardware synths? In Mono or Stereo. Meaning do you only have a 1/4 in Jack in the Mono (most times left channel) or full L/R ?
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pappa
How do most of you peeps audition and record your hardware synths? In Mono or Stereo. Meaning do you only have a 1/4 in Jack in the Mono (most times left channel) or full L/R ? |
It depends on whether or not there's any stereo information in the source. My Juno has a stereo chorus, so that gets recorded in stereo (if I'm using the chorus). My Prophet only has a mono out, so that's usually in mono, unless I run it into an outboard FX box (Alesis Midiverb 4).
I don't think there's a huge difference between stereo and mono for multitracking programs like Cubase. The files will be twice as big on your hard drive, that's about it (I could be wrong on this). |
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| Limit |
| there's a big difference...it all depends on what the sound is made up of...if a source is coming out of a stereo out then I would most certainly record it in stereo(if thats what you want out of your sound) if your sound is gonna have reverb and delay on it after the fact it will have a stereo feild anyway, in most cases. My advice is to keep everything mono as much as possible but in cases like leads(not mono) and pads it is a different story. all in all, it all depends on where you want your sound to sit in the mix. |
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| Derivative |
argh! you have a juno and a prophet! you mean the pro-one or prophet-5? i cant remember which one is the monosynth. either way, the one im thinking of is a bass monster. mono out. one of the fattest things you will ever hear with 1 voice.
i record everything from my virus b in stereo however. although i tend to use it for pads and leads as opposed to basses which are pretty well covered by my freebie softy collection. |
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
argh! you have a juno and a prophet! you mean the pro-one or prophet-5? i cant remember which one is the monosynth. either way, the one im thinking of is a bass monster. mono out. one of the fattest things you will ever hear with 1 voice. |
The Pro-One is the monosynth, and it's definitely a beast.
I have the Prophet-600, the first American made synth with MIDI
and the HS-60, which is technically a Juno-106 but with built in speakers and a amp, which made it suitable for the "Home Synth" market (hence the HS in the name).
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| Pappa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Limit
there's a big difference...it all depends on what the sound is made up of...if a source is coming out of a stereo out then I would most certainly record it in stereo(if thats what you want out of your sound) if your sound is gonna have reverb and delay on it after the fact it will have a stereo feild anyway, in most cases. My advice is to keep everything mono as much as possible but in cases like leads(not mono) and pads it is a different story. all in all, it all depends on where you want your sound to sit in the mix. |
Understand what your saying, reason why I asked, b/c I keep hearing that most clubs are in mono anyway, so what good would it be to have panning, on a system that won't utilize it. Or is there a way around that?
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| Derivative |
you do realise maytag that between those 2 synths you have the most amazing array of bass sounds available to you?! add a minimoog and you have the ace, king and queen of bass.
i thought about going for an sh-101 on ebay at some point when i get the money. seeing as they go fairly cheaply considering the legendary status and use it has attained. but i dont really like the sound of sh-101 basses. 101 acid is second fiddle 303 acid too :( |
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| Derivative |
| quote: | | Understand what your saying, reason why I asked, b/c I keep hearing that most clubs are in mono anyway, so what good would it be to have panning, on a system that won't utilize it. Or is there a way around that? |
they probably play in mono because stereo field separation doesnt work well in clubs. its like why hardly any dance producers work in 5.1 - for 5.1 to work you need to be centred and the audio is positioned around you. in club you cant always be in the centre. so if you are on the edges it sounds ed. you lose half the sound over the distance and through phasing problems caused by listening off axis. to a lesser extent this happens in stereo too. if its predominantly bass frequency sound then its fine to record in mono. although you dont lose anything from recording it in stereo. you can always force it to centre and play monophonically through your host. |
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| thecYrus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pappa
Understand what your saying, reason why I asked, b/c I keep hearing that most clubs are in mono anyway, so what good would it be to have panning, on a system that won't utilize it. Or is there a way around that?
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why do you mix and master your tunes? in the clubs you can't hear a difference. everything sounds like :toothless
well, the reason is i don't produce for the club. i produce to satisfy myself and that's a much higher level than 90% of my listeners would ever realise.. |
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| Pappa |
| quote: | Originally posted by thecYrus
why do you mix and master your tunes? in the clubs you can't hear a difference. everything sounds like :toothless
well, the reason is i don't produce for the club. i produce to satisfy myself and that's a much higher level than 90% of my listeners would ever realise.. |
True.. Good Point..
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
you do realise maytag that between those 2 synths you have the most amazing array of bass sounds available to you?! add a minimoog and you have the ace, king and queen of bass.
i thought about going for an sh-101 on ebay at some point when i get the money. seeing as they go fairly cheaply considering the legendary status and use it has attained. but i dont really like the sound of sh-101 basses. 101 acid is second fiddle 303 acid too :( |
The P-600 isn't all that great as bass to be honest. They used some digital chips to generate the envelopes, and they aren't real fast. That tends to make it lack the punch that the Juno or Minimoog has.
I pretty much use the Prophet for really wierd sounds and phat detuned leads. The Juno is my main lead and pads synth. Nothing beats real analogue when it comes to sounds in the upper registers! |
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