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Please Help Adj Proscratch 1 Vs Pioneer Cdj-1000
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| inatrance |
| I know the Pioneer cdj-1000's are the best cd mixers on the market but they are roughly $1100 while I can get American Dj Pro Scratch's for only $350 a piece.. I need opinions, is it worth the extra 1500 dollars for pioneers??? i dont even think i have that much frigen money... what does the adj do, that pioneers dont? or vice versa.. I need a mastamind, who knows it all bout this stuff... or just some opinionated people, please respond! thanks:clown: |
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| RavingLunatic |
Well.. let me preface my post by stating that I have never used either of those, or any CD decks for that matter. so, I'm not speaking from experience.
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I have heard that american DJ stuff is crap and to stay away from it.
it's lower priced than pioneer, and most other brands.
I've never heard anyone say good things about ADJ, nor have I ever seen the equipment being used by a proffessional.
it's up to you. but if you do get it, make sure there is a return policy, so you don't get burned. |
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| BKLN2LA |
| why not just get CDJ-700's??? |
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| inatrance |
| those are still 600 a piece.. okay well whats a comparison between the ADJ's and the pioneer 700's? |
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| DJ Darchinova |
If i was you iw ould purchase the ADJ pro scratches..
they have many effects and the scratching is quality.. well not as much as the CDJ-1000's!! :D
I was trying them out at my local DJ store.. great value.. trust me
The CDJ-700's dont have scratch which is what you are probably looking for.. but it does have loop.. the CDJ-100's have good effects but no loop.. :(
the ADJ pro scratch has both loop and affects and scratch!
Anyway, to sum up, they are really worth your money
BTW, im not knocking the Pioneer CD players :) - i got CDJ-100's |
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| inatrance |
| thanks for the opinion, actually you helped a lot, I dont NEED to scratch.. actually I'm not sure if I ever even will, but I just want the "capability" depending on how good i ever get. :stongue: |
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| ABTsportsline |
Ok i never come on here anymore, but let me put in my 2 cents.....
I have two Numark TT's....... Recently i asked myself the same questiosn you did - i ended up getting 2 American DJ Pro Scratches....
Let me just say that i love them. Like you, i went to my local DJ store, tried out the CDJ100, 700, 1000, and the ProScratch. Pretty much everything you said was accurate.... The only thing a 1000 can do that the Pro Scratch can't do is a touch and go - i.e. when you press your hand on the jog wheel of a 1000, the cd stops - as if you've stopped the vinyl..... the Pro Scratch doesn't do that. But you can cue up with a pro scratch (i.e. spin it a lil' faster to match beats..) The jog wheel "acts" as the record and lets you adjust the pitch.... in ADDITION to the pitch control - plus you have pitch bend too...... you have 3 banks of memory for looping for each CD you use.... you have 6 sound effects, my *favorite* being the Skid/Coast... which is in essence playing a record player, then just turning the player off or hitting "stop" on the TT..... the CD (in the american DJ pro scratch), will actually slow down over a period of 3-4 seconds (and this is adjustable), so it SOUNDS like you're spinning on TT's.... and again, you can scratch.... scratching is harder on here than real TT's, but you can do it, and quite effectively...
as a matter of fact, when you purchase one, included in the box is a video from American DJ... they sponsor a big dj on the circuit, "DJ Skillz", and they have a video clip of him using 2 Pro Scratch and doing a "DJ competition" with them....... sounds JUST like TT's, and seems to work great.
I mainly spin trance and don't scratch, but i've been trying to do a backspin on them.... seems like it will work, but then again, i never "perfected" the backspin on the TT's... I currently run all 4 in my room - 2 ProScratches and 2 Numark TT's... with a Numark mixer, hooked up to 2 JBL Eon 15's..... & using 2 Martin MX-1's with an MC-1 controller.... sound quality is great from the CD players - you can't even tell a difference when i go from one TT to a CD player....
As far as ease of use, its STILL Easier to mix on the TT's, (mainly because you can do lead-arounds with your fingers, and touch-and-go's....), but my point is that i like the Pro Scratches BETTER than the CDJ100's or 700's..... because you can't use the jog wheels on those to get the effects you can on the Pro Scratch. I would get the CDJ1000's if money isn't an issue - but i'd be afraid to do anything near them, costing sooo much.
I haven't had any technical problems with these two Pro Scratch's, and yes, American DJ has been known not to make the best stuff in the past, and i've owned American DJ stuff in the past, but the feel i've gotten from using this equipment, let me tell you that if it didn't have "American DJ" written across the top, i'd never guess it was made by them....... it feels like the Pioneers (NOT the 1000 - that feels like a TT all the way!)..... Basically this American DJ Pro Scratch feels like a LOT better quality than their other .
These things are like half the size of a TT (versus the CDJ1000's being the size of a TT)...... the only thing i like the CDJ1000's over the Pro Scratch's is the fact the jog wheel on that is literally the size of a platter.... i LOVE that..... other than that the only things it can do over the american DJ is sampling stuff....
but the Pro Scratch again has like 6 effects (including a Pan you adjust from left-right to front-back, etc.), the necessary Flanger, then there's an "echo-delay" you can do - which (depending on how much you spin the jog wheel), will sample the music over itself, as if there's an echo.... which is a REALLY cool effect if you are doing the Skid/Coast effect which is the equivalent to turning off a record player while the music is playing - you hit the Skid WITH the echo, and it sounds fookin awesome...
And you can use the 3 memory banks as cue points - you can take a 10 track CD, lets say..... and set a "cue" point at the beginning of track #2...... and WHILE you're playing track #1 (right before the end), you can hit a "special fx" button, select a cue point you want to GO to AFTER the effects take place, and push as many of the 6 special effects the Pro Scratch does.... usually a good combo of 2-3 works best).. and when you're ready to activate them, you push another button, "enter", and the 3 effects will happen (in my case i do a skid/pan/echo....... and they do this INTO your Cue point (in this case the next track)..... it makes for a COOL mix if you wanted to mix 2 tracks on the same CD (obviously you can't go from player to player....) so yeah, there are ways to get around that.
as far as the vinyl vs. CD debate, i still prefer vinyl..... but man, these CD players are hella phat! the only reason i got them, should be noted, is b/c there are just so many records you can't get on vinyl - i.e. not released yet, sold out in stores, costs too much..... so much easier to download high quality vinyl rips of songs over the internet...... thats the ONLY reason i got them.
and i'm 100% happy with them.
hope my info helped..... again, there's a LOT of programming you can do with these, (they have DSP - digital signal processing), and all kidns of other programming ..... so watch that user video they send you a couple of times, and you have to STUDY that manual -
but well worth the $680 i spent (340 each).
Cheers!
-ABT- |
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| inatrance |
| thats a really low price, whered you pick up the pro scratchs for only 340 a piece? |
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| Dj Moriano |
I tried the pro scrach 1, i didn't like them, but i know a dj that he is djing for about 10 years and he work with them and he realy like them. I didn't tried the cdj-1000 but i heard that it's great, if you have the money take the cdj-1000 if not you can wait for cmx-3000 or buy the cdj-700 that are very good too.
I would go for any pioneer they have better reputation then every
american DJ cd player |
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| ABTsportsline |
| quote: | Originally posted by inatrance
thats a really low price, whered you pick up the pro scratchs for only 340 a piece? |
www.audiolines.com
they don't "list" the prices on the site, you have to email to get the quote. I did, and they told me $340 for a limited time. good luck.
-ABT- |
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