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Vestax vinyl recorder -would you use it?
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| Exodus17 |
i think its brilliant.. it prolly costs an arm and a leg but you could record all your latest productions to vinyl
pretty cool imo |
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| Luke Terry |
it does cost an arm + a leg, £2000+ if i remember with the discs being £10 each. the discs are virtually unplayable after 10 plays too
with the advent of final scratch to test tracks on vinyl before press ahead of cdjs if necessary it would seem an unecessary purchase. you can get quality dubplated from chemical for £40 if you want your track on wax that badly
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| IDarkISwordI |
How would final scratch show you how your song will perform on vinyl :p. All final scratch does is reads time stamped sound signals off of a vinyl and it in turn sends a message to your computer about where in the track you are. You wont actually get anything vinyl like out of the sound, which would make a big difference. Would I use the Vestax vinyl recorder though? No, probably not, though it is the cheapest solution as far as getting a record lathe. But, as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. I'll stick with having them pressed and mastered at $7/vinyl.
Cheers,
Zac |
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| Vero |
| i talked to a guy who worked for vestax about this piece of gear and he told me its very difficult to cut the vinyl correctly and its way over priced. |
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| DJ Twenty |
Some online record shops will burn ya tune to vinyl now, and can be ordered from online. Not cheap though probably about 50 quid a piece.
But its proper vinyl and will last to show of to your mates :D |
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| George Kendall |
Final scratch does help show how you track will sound on vinyl, by the way the stylus picks up the frequencies of the master.
At the end of the day, how well a vinyl sounds depends A, on the master and B on how well the track has been mastered to the dubplate or laquer.
So buying one of these vinyl cutters, it makes you the guy in the studio cutting tracks....you really think they sound quality will be as good as the guys who have had years of sound engineering experience?
christ no, they took too long getting these cutters out, now people can use final scratch instead, to play their music the analogue way.
The black vinyl compound discs will be in excess of around £15 each, and as Luke says, they will last for roughly 20plays before they will be deemed unusable.
Waste of cash. |
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| George Kendall |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Twenty
Some online record shops will burn ya tune to vinyl now, and can be ordered from online. Not cheap though probably about 50 quid a piece.
But its proper vinyl and will last to show of to your mates :D |
Are you sure? as I'm pretty sure they will only produce dubplates as one-off, because they are cut on a lathe. whereas real pressed vinyl is mastered onto a laquer, then a metal stamper is made and the runs are pressed.
this would cost far more than £50...as if costs most labels around £200 to get the tracks mastered/cut reading for pressing. |
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| DJ Twenty |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Kendall
Are you sure? as I'm pretty sure they will only produce dubplates as one-off, because they are cut on a lathe. whereas real pressed vinyl is mastered onto a laquer, then a metal stamper is made and the runs are pressed.
this would cost far more than £50...as if costs most labels around £200 to get the tracks mastered/cut reading for pressing. |
Maybe u are right, im not 100% on the subject! ;) |
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| IDarkISwordI |
Except with FinalScratch, you dony hear the stuff on the FSRecords :p. What you hear is stuff played off of your computer. Stuff coming off vinyl has to be mastered very carefully where as stuff played on a computer does not. Making the assumtion that if you use FS and it sounds good doesn't mean you can automaticly transfer it to vinyl. What it does do for you is that if you have just finished a track or a remix or something and want to instantly play it in a nightclub with a vinyl on the table, then FS does come in handy but only then. You still lack the mastering required for it to be put on vinyl though. One such thing that is required when mastering a track to put it on vinyl is that its important that the bass levels are dropped. If you have a really heavy kick, I can guarnetee that even if you have the stickiest needles on a straight arm turntable, the needle will jump. Thats why often times on your mixer, you have to turn the bass levels up while leaving the others along for the most part.
Cheers,
Zac |
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| Vero |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Kendall
Final scratch does help show how you track will sound on vinyl, by the way the stylus picks up the frequencies of the master.
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um sorry, but no dude. the frequencies on a FS control disc only tell the computer where your stylus is on the disc. when its all said and done, the sound coming from your FS is a digital signal being converted to analog and sent from the RCAs on the FS box to your mixer. the sound has absolutly NOTHING to do with a vinyl. it will not give you ANY representation of how a vinyl will sound compared to the MP3 or WAV you are playing off your comp.
if you are thinking about pressing your own vinyls you must take this into consideration: what is your source? if you are like most of us, you are most likely producing your tracks from a computer (reason, ableton, cubase, whatever) in this case your source is 100% digital and probably should stay that way. if your source is analog (analog synths, mixers, recorders, preamps, compressors, etc.) then you will be able to transfer that warm rich analog sound to a vinyl. im not saying that digitaly produced stuff doesnt sound good on vinyl. im just saying that it will be cheaper and easier in the long run to buy a CDJ or FS/serato. pressing vinyls is great and i am a total vinyl junkie, but unless you are planning on pressing a few thousand copies and having them mass distributed and sold, its a big waste of money.
of couse this is all just my opinion.... (except the first paragraph, thats just fact!) |
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