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Catholics and their endless line of bull**** aggravate the **** out of me.
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wwu.punisher
I want to preface this by stating that my roommate is Catholic. I have been living with him for two years. He's studying to enter the seminary at WSU next year. I, personally, went to a private Catholic school for two years (sixth and seventh grade). I know more about the Catholic faith than most people who aren't Catholic, so if Catholics are reading this and want to argue any of the following points, be my guest. In fact, I hope someone who is Catholic replies. It will just drive my points home.

For starters, the Schiavo case has gone too far. The ing woman is dying. She's a borderline vegetable, and cannot survive unless there is a feeding tube present. Guess what? Feeding tubes aren't mentioned in the Bible, and Schiavo cannot feed herself. Therefore, it is not a ing suicide. I don't care what the man in the funny hat says about it. I don't care what your priest says about it. If you cannot survive without the assistance of someone else, you are allowed to die. It's nature, not intent, that is killing you. Schiavo should have died years ago. Her sick s for parents decided to keep her alive in an atrocious state simply so that they can delay the inevitable pain that will come along with their dauther's passing.

Another thing that has been bugging the out of me is the fact that Catholics have so much to say about abortion in the United States. The funny thing is, some of the most outspoken people on the issue are male. Guess what? If you don't have a uterus, shut the up. You don't know about having children. You don't know about what's good for a woman's physical and/or psychological health. What if the woman knows she won't survive pregnancy? What if she was the victim of a rape? What if there's a chance that the kid is going to be born with some horrible affliction that will make theirs a life of pain and misery? Huh? What then? I'll tell you what, at least according to the church: have the kid, anyway, because it's wrong to have an abortion. The Bible and the man in the funny hat say so.

Lastly, the issue of gay marriage comes to mind. Who gives a if two men or two women want to get married? It's not about your ing Bible. Most of them could give a what it says. It has nothing to do with a religious union. It has to do with the fact that people get ed in the ass for health, education, and financial benefits when they can't be legally married. Your religious views on the issue are not important. It's about legality. We're all high and mighty about being an accepting nation that embraces diversity, and yet we go and people over when they try to make use of the institutions that we have had in place for centuries.

I'm so sick and tired of people refusing to think for themselves. Go yourself if you live by what is written in a book. The Bible is thousands of years old. It is not an authoritative source on every possible situation that could ever come up. Neither is an 80 year old man who can barely stand up on his own or even lift his head. (I often wonder who's wiping his ass for him, personally.) You need to wake up and realize that other people don't give a about what your church says regarding something in which you're involved. This is why we have a separation between church and state. This is why we have personal freedoms. Quit trying to be little Hitlers. It's not going to work, and you're just going to get yourselves knocked the out one day when you spout your bull in front of the wrong person.

Lights out. Cut the cord. I need a ing drink.
Floorfiller
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Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Lastly, the issue of gay marriage comes to mind. Who gives a if two men or two women want to get married? It's not about your ing Bible. Most of them could give a what it says. It has nothing to do with a religious union. It has to do with the fact that people get ed in the ass for health, education, and financial benefits when they can't be legally married. Your religious views on the issue are not important. It's about legality. We're all high and mighty about being an accepting nation that embraces diversity, and yet we go and people over when they try to make use of the institutions that we have had in place for centuries.



did you intend for that to be as funny as it was? hehehe :p



ok...but yes i agree with a lot of that except the anger and stuff heehhe :D
DarkAngel
Excellent post.
Michael19
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Originally posted by wwu.punisher
What if the woman knows she won't survive pregnancy?




doesnt the church allow aborition when the womens life will be at risk?
Sunsnail
good post! it even mentioned buttsecks
occrider
Catholics are the least wacky of the bunch. There are a lot crazier Christians out there.
cycloptor
you're confusing cathloics with christians. im roman cathloic, buy very liberal. dont group one lup of people with the christian right, or right leaning thinkers. thats like sayling all muslims are extreamist s. i understand where you're coming from, but ffs, express it better.
wwu.punisher
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Originally posted by Michael19
doesnt the church allow aborition when the womens life will be at risk?


No. Abortion is considered murder and can never be justified, at least according to the Pope's last ruling on the issue. (It's derived from the Gospels.)

And I didn't mean to make the 'buttsecks' pun... but it does make me laugh, now.
wwu.punisher
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Originally posted by cycloptor
you're confusing cathloics with christians. im roman cathloic, buy very liberal. dont group one lup of people with the christian right, or right leaning thinkers. thats like sayling all muslims are extreamist s. i understand where you're coming from, but ffs, express it better.


Obviously, you haven't read some of the books published by the Pope... who happens to be your religious leader if you're a Catholic.
wwu.punisher
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Originally posted by occrider
Catholics are the least wacky of the bunch. There are a lot crazier Christians out there.


Granted... but Catholics are the ones who always end up in the news, and they're the ones who have the most power over the mass media. Thus, it's Catholic viewpoints that are disseminated through major news sources most often. (i.e. CNN, FoxNews, etc.)

Michael19
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Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Obviously, you haven't read some of the books published by the Pope... who happens to be your religious leader if you're a Catholic.



Bush is the leader of AMerica, doesnt mean you have to agreee with everything he does or says though.
Ibizadreamer AG
I'm Catholic. :p
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