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[trancestep] Marcus Lira - The Grudge (pg. 2)
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| Sirocco |
| ohman man this rocks!!!! |
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| Sirocco |
| marcus, is there anywhere i can find a tutorial on the rythm and patterns of trancestep or dnb or whatever..im completely dumbfounded on how they are sequenced! |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJVirgen
Hey dude,
This track is really friggin' tight! I'd definitely say this is a good mix between hard trance and DnB. I wouldn't quite call it "trance" though just because it doesn't have that uplifting emotional bit, and there's no euphoric breakdown (or breakdown at all, it seems), but it does have tons of energy with some good musicality to it ;)
Everyone already mentioned mastering, but... What I'd do is turn down the high synths to give more room for the low end. The mid is definitely lacking (1 KHz range) so you might want to work on some EQ. Usually dropping the highs and bass is better than boosting the mids. Might want to pass through a tube warmer or HQ multi-band compressor to help bring out that bass end again. Just be sure to watch a spectrum analyzer while it plays to make sure you're not overpowering any particular band.
Musically -- dude, this rocks =) Hope to see an update soon! |
Thanks for the tips, I'm gonna try that :) And I was talking about the most banging sub-genres of trance other than epic, reason why I had mentioned the genre :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Sirocco
marcus, is there anywhere i can find a tutorial on the rythm and patterns of trancestep or dnb or whatever..im completely dumbfounded on how they are sequenced! |
hhmm... other than the results from google, I wouldn't know what to recommend, although it's quite simple really.
The basic differences from trance are the tempo (while trance is usually produced in the 130-150 bpm range) drum'n'bass is mostly found within the 160-180 bpm range. As for the drum patterns, I've used drum loops exclusively (which you can easily download looking for amen breaks and whatnot) and, if you want to use a drum machine, imitating would be a nice start (the most basic beat, dividing a bar by 16 would be snare at 5 and 13 and kick at 1 and 11). If there's anything else you want to know, let me know ;)
I'm glad you liked it. |
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| Xenocreator_PG_ |
beats. awesome percs.
freaky . hehe.
0.40 wow. insane.
1.07 nice bass. It would be nice to have a thumpeb bass drum bangen away in the background though. I reckon it would help carry the tune. The drum & bass is very funky though; i likes it! :p
great tune Lira. Your a pretty damn talenty producer. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_
0.40 wow. insane.
1.07 nice bass. It would be nice to have a thumpeb bass drum bangen away in the background though. I reckon it would help carry the tune. The drum & bass is very funky though; i likes it! :p
great tune Lira. Your a pretty damn talenty producer. |
Cheers, mate :)
Yeah, I believe the bass drum is really the problem here :p I'm going to see what I can do ;) |
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| Porky |
sorry maaz
i don't really like dnb or trancestep
not really digging ur song
:(
pork |
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| Lira |
| It's all good, Chris :) I kinda remember the sort of music you like (at least what you told me once on MSN) so if I produce something of that sort (which is in my plans), I'll let you know ;) |
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| MK2 |
Mad thing man :)
more some adjust on track i think it would work better. keep the creativity alive Lira! :)
vai fundo velho! :D |
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| Porky |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
the sort of music you like |
cheese and uplifting
(closet prog whore..eep!)
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
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| Stu Cox |
very original
agree about the kick - it doesn't have to be a bassy kick, as you'll find with a lot of drum n bass the kick often has a lot of top end on it and just lets the bassline handle the bottom end, which would probably help with your problem of your synths fighting with your kick
the synths are excellent as are the ideas, but the whole track sounds a bit unclear - sounds to me as though it may be compressed too heavily?
would be interested to hear your work in other genres |
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| Tranc3 |
Hey Maaz...
On the technical side, you need to give your mix some more headroom and let up on the compressor a bit. Just give all of the elements a little more room to breathe and the mixdown should sound better. I find when I work with non-percussive based music, I oftentimes turn down the individual outputs, as I don't want any one element to really stand out. The final result is much easier to work with in mixdown than something where everything is fighting for whatever room it can get.
On the musical side, it sounds similar to what I make, in terms of overall structure. I'm going to guess you get bored easily and keep adding elements to the track. The lead synths have a mortal kombatish feel, but I'm not quite sure why. Bassline is rocking, could benefit greatly from some sidechain compression (doh, getting technical again). Really some propa hard and fast DnB.
Ahh I know why it reminds me of MK - other forms of trance 'n bass have leads that play longer notes, and therefore seem much slower, whereas the notes here furiously keep up with the overall tempo. |
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| Tranc3 |
| I like "Ayako" better |
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