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| RIPassion |
| I've never given it too much thought up until now, but what do you think Paul does to get those nice synths he uses, like the lead synth in Another Way, the lead in Today... are they distinct to a certain synthesizer he likes or did he just create them from scratch? Any ideas? I'm not really looking to reproduce them, but just curious. |
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| iloop |
hahahahaa, create them from scratch.... hillarious
I for one believe he didn't, it would be hard for a producer/dj that busy to start creating his own sounds... He's presented with a variety of choices and he chooses what he likes... same for the drum samples, harmony instrumentation etc...
i may be wrong but i highly doubt it. |
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| RIPassion |
Lol, just realized what that conveyed. I didn't mean create from literally nothing, I meant did he make his own little patches a long time ago and re-use them :P
Well if you listen to his productions pre-charlie may's helping him ( ever heard The Green Valley EP? HORRID! D: ) But Today is VERY nice. I think he was doing 100% of his work back then, and some of that sound has stayed and shows itself in his current music. (Not in reflections, though). |
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| wink |
| quote: | Originally posted by iloop
hahahahaa, create them from scratch.... hillarious
I for one believe he didn't, it would be hard for a producer/dj that busy to start creating his own sounds... He's presented with a variety of choices and he chooses what he likes... same for the drum samples, harmony instrumentation etc...
i may be wrong but i highly doubt it. |
WHAT????????? UHM that is completely wrong. If you've been following Pvd at all and you produce you should be able to tell he is an excellent programmer/synthesist. He engineers and produced everything himself. 100%. His patches are extremely original and he LOVES tweaking the out of everything. Just read any article from him about when he writes and programs and it will be evident. Theres quite a few people that dont enjoy his song structures.. but are amazed at his divirsity in sound design. |
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| fr0st |
| quote: | Originally posted by wink
WHAT????????? UHM that is completely wrong. If you've been following Pvd at all and you produce you should be able to tell he is an excellent programmer/synthesist. He engineers and produced everything himself. 100%. His patches are extremely original and he LOVES tweaking the out of everything. Just read any article from him about when he writes and programs and it will be evident. Theres quite a few people that dont enjoy his song structures.. but are amazed at his divirsity in sound design. |
I highly doubt he has time to do much sound design.. Sorry to shatter your dreams but prolly 90% of these big guys sketch out a idea then have a engineer work the track. Then have a sound designer work the track then again back to the egineer for a final mix... |
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| RIPassion |
Paul probably doesn't have the time to sit there and do the "less fun" stuff like mixing and especially mastering, and there's nothing wrong with using an engineer for that stuff; however, I do think he's an avid sound designer. I'm sure if he makes a sound he likes and composes with it, but I wouldn't doubt the engineer does a little more tweaking on that sound to make it fit the mix. (he does all his composing btw, except exceptions like a few credits on reflections).
Don't be so sure, fr0st, some guys find the time. You know paul's big with his laptop and stuff. I wouldn't throw out the possibility of some vst programming.
Some guys do find time to do it all, (armin?), and it's unfair to judge like that. |
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| tonkproject |
| quote: | Originally posted by iloop
hahahahaa, create them from scratch.... hillarious
I for one believe he didn't, it would be hard for a producer/dj that busy to start creating his own sounds... He's presented with a variety of choices and he chooses what he likes... same for the drum samples, harmony instrumentation etc...
i may be wrong but i highly doubt it. |
i think you are a little bit confused making a difference between N-SYNC and PVD. |
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| wink |
LOL this isnt a dream.. hehe, just wait for some of the uber van dyk fans to come.. Thats why so many people prefer Paul over alot of other BIG dj's is because he's 1 of the very few who actually doesnt have an engineer lol... That's one of his most attractive traits. Look at his records.. there is nooo other name except for him, even on the mastering. Look at this(taken from http://www.mio.co.za/article.php?cat=dj&id=164):
Q:You get an exceptionally tight sound, amateur producers always say that they want their songs to kick like a Paul van Dyk track. Tell us a bit about your mastering and mixing and how important you feel all that sort of stuff is?
A:Well, it's not just the mastering, it's the whole engineering. One thing which is really important, which a lot of people don't really understand the right way I believe, is that especially with electronic music it's very important that you're not just an artist. I think it's really important to be able to engineer your own things or at least to know how to engineer your own things. You don't need to do it, but you need to know how it would work, if you would have to do it. Also, as a producer in this particular genre of music, you have to be creative with engineering techniques as well. That's really it, it's all sorts of coming together. When I arrange a track and when I write a track, I immediately set the things up the way it has to sound. It's pretty rare actually that I come back and take all the faders down and start engineering and making the sound. It all sort of develops while the things are coming together. That's probably the best way to work, because then when you put a string in, while actually things are running, then you know where are the bad frequencies of it and then you take it off.
How did you build your skills? Did you have someone sitting in the studio with you, or did you do everything on your own?
Well first of all, when I started, I had people. I had an engineer and someone who was helping me when there was this weird little piano line which I couldn't play. And then I basically learned to do everything by myself.
And theres tons of more refrences to him working completely alone as the engineer and producer on all this tracks. |
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| wink |
"At first glance, some might see Paul van Dyk as a puppet with a pretty face, but van Dyk doesn't have an engineer or a producer behind the curtain making his music for him. Everything is hands-on, and all that he's learned from other producers and engineers during the past 10 years can be traced in his music."
-taken from Remix mag - http://remixmag.com/mag/remix_hanging_balance/ |
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| RIPassion |
| And that is why I win :P So i'm guessing the answer to my original question was: He plays around with sound a lot to make his own sounds. Hoorah. :) |
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| wink |
“With electronic music, I think it's even more important that you are creative as an engineer as much as a musician or a producer because, obviously, you can change so much. And it has a lot to do with experience on one hand and a lot to do with understanding of basic physics and Mother Nature's laws, as well. And you have to have a big knowledge about all the equipment you actually use and what kind of impact certain equipment has on certain instruments and certain parts of a track. I don't have an engineer or anything. But there's a guy who I buy my equipment from. And when I buy something, he explains the basic rules of a certain piece of gear to me. Then, it's basically down to mostly experience with the thing. Is this compressor right for that kind of bass? That's what you have to find out for yourself.”
From http://remixmag.com/mag/remix_hanging_balance/ |
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| fr0st |
| Ohwell i guess you need something to believe in.. I can assure you he does not mix his records nor does he do final sound design. As i said before He sketches out a idea etc. Maybe he sound design arrangement and what not then he hands it over. But you can believe what you want.. |
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