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Greatest hip hop Artist (pg. 2)
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| dj tek |
| Ruler Zig-Zag-Zig Allah |
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| Hydarnes |
| Don't tell me this is an epidemic. |
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| Tufan |
Nas
2-Pac
Jay-Z
B.I.G
Youngbloodz
Young Buck
Eminem
Chamilion |
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| mto |
Hip-hop has two faces, the underground and mainstream. To compare the two is impossible. Mainstream focuses on club tracks while underground focuses on lyricism.
Therefore, let me sort this out.
Pioneers:
1. Kool Herc [DJ]
2. Grandmaster Flash [DJ]
3. KRS-One and BDP [Rappers, DJs]
4. Kool Mo Dee [Rapper, party orginizer]
5. Run DMC [took it to the mainstream]
6. Eric B. & Rakim [Great em cee, great dj]
Producers (mainstream):
1. Dr. Dre
2. Dj Premier
3. Timbaland
4. The Neptunes
5. Scott Storch
Now the next category will look somewhat weird. The reason is that in mid 90's lyricism was still present within the mainstream hip-hop, i mean, at that time it was just beginning to form into what it is today. However, the commercial aspect has created something that's quite crappy.
Rappers (mainstream):
1. Christopher "The Notorious B.I.G" Wallace
2. Tupac Shakur
3. Jay-Z
4. NAS
5. Eminem
Groups/Crews (mainstream):
1. The Roots [yes, they won Grammies, they sold millions.. therefore they are mainstream, even though their style is not]
2. Wu-Tang Clan
3. Bone Thugs -n- Harmony
4. Run DMC
5. Getto Boys
Producers (underground):
1. ANT
2. Madlib
3. Pete Rock
4. Beatnuts
5. Demigodz
The next is a hard category for me, since there is so much talent. But here it goes...
Rappers (underground):
1. Masta Ace [been 15 years, lotta love is missing]
2. Immortal Technique
3. Slug
4. Vakill
5. Brother Ali
Best DJs:
1. Grandmaster Flash
2. Mix Master Mike
3. Jam Master Jay
4. Jazzy Jeff
5. Danger Mouse
Well there you go. |
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| n0bben |
| heh. primo eats mainstream producers like dre and neptunes for breakfast, and he's not half as commercial (club tracks..ehm?) he's just delivering dope beats for 15+ years and still going. true skills behind the wheels of steel as well |
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| mto |
| quote: | Originally posted by n0bben
heh. primo eats mainstream producers like dre and neptunes for breakfast, and he's not half as commercial (club tracks..ehm?) he's just delivering dope beats for 15+ years and still going. true skills behind the wheels of steel as well |
I agree with you. However, his commercial sucess with Jay-z and Guru can't be ignored. His style is not mainstream, but he has had commercial success.. therefore he has to be in the list with guys who have moved similar number of units as him. |
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| mto |
| Also, i've wrote this list up very quick. If you notice, I have left out so many good em cees as well as producers. I wanted to do top 5, but this does no justice to producers like Hi-Tek, GZA, Koolade Croatia, Kanye west.. and no justice to em cees like Talib Kweli (who i love), Mos Def, and many others. |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by mto
GZA |
dont produce....:disbelief |
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| mto |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
dont produce....:disbelief |
I beg to differ. He produced 90% of his classic "Liquid Swords"
Read up on it. RZA helped of course. |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by mto
I beg to differ. He produced 90% of his classic "Liquid Swords"
Read up on it. RZA helped of course. |
:haha:
no man.. rza produced all the tracks. i have the lp. yeah gza def. had some input on it overall but actually producing the tracks, that all bobby digi right there.. |
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| mto |
They why did RZA say that GZA actually took it upon himself to create something original and base it around the martial arts? I mean the whole album is concept album, but RZA distinctively said that GZA wanted to have as much input as possilbe and that he (RZA) only helped him with the engineering and mastering part. I'm aware of the name listings in credits of the LP, but so many producers leave themselves out and name their mastering crew.
Anyways, i don't care much about it, the album speaks for itself. Due to this, I always gave GZA props in the production world as well.
P.S. Another person who sometimes gets left out in the hip-hop production world is Rick Ruben. The man is a genius. |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by mto
They why did RZA say that GZA actually took it upon himself to create something original and base it around the martial arts? I mean the whole album is concept album, but RZA distinctively said that GZA wanted to have as much input as possilbe and that he (RZA) only helped him with the engineering and mastering part. I'm aware of the name listings in credits of the LP, but so many producers leave themselves out and name their mastering crew.
Anyways, i don't care much about it, the album speaks for itself. Due to this, I always gave GZA props in the production world as well.
P.S. Another person who sometimes gets left out in the hip-hop production world is Rick Ruben. The man is a genius. |
lol.. yeah gza had lots of ideas and concepts.. ie. i think he came up with the idea of sampling Shogun Assasins.. which was heavily sampled thruout the album and the album cover where ppl are fighting on the chessboard, was his idea as well but as far as actually producing each track, that was all rza and 4th disciple...there no reason why gza's name is not on any of the tracks on liquid swords if he produced it. and why would rza take the credit if all he did was engineer it ? gza produced the last track on his latest album legends of the liquid sword... cmon man ive been a wu fan since 94...
01 Liquid Swords (4:30)
Producer - RZA
02 Dual Of The Iron Mic (4:06)
Featuring - Inspectah Deck , Masta Killa , Ol' Dirty Bastard
Producer - RZA
03 Living In The World Today (4:22)
Featuring - Method Man , RZA
Producer - RZA
04 Gold (3:57)
Producer - RZA
05 Cold World (5:30)
Featuring - Inspectah Deck
Producer - RZA
06 Labels (2:54)
Producer - RZA
07 4th Chamber (4:37)
Featuring - Ghostface Killah , Killah Priest , RZA
Producer - RZA
08 Shadowboxin' (3:30)
Featuring - Method Man
Producer - RZA
09 Hell's Wind Staff / Killah Hills 10304 (5:08)
Producer - RZA
10 Investigative Reports (3:49)
Featuring - Ghostface Killah , Raekwon , U-God
Producer - RZA
11 Swordsman (3:21)
Producer - RZA
12 I Gotcha Back (5:01)
Featuring - RZA
Producer - RZA
13 Killah Priest B.I.B.L.E. (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) (4:30)
Producer - 4th Disciple |
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