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CD or VINYL Are they the same to mix with(Please Help) (pg. 2)
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| sLiCk_NiCk |
| hey im also another keen dj. though ive only used cd's to mix, i wanna give vinyl a go. i just wanted to know wheteher that site audiolines.com is a store situated in the USA?? coz im from australia and i duno what currency that is.as a matter of fsct i got a party this week that im gonna dj at. i might look around and see if u can get a few basic lessons on how to ix with vinyl coz my mate whos a dj always seems to be busy. anyways get back to me on the audiolines.com questions. thanx |
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| DJ LIQUID |
personally i dont know anyone that spins rekkZ and doesnt like it.
Even at parties. CDdj comes in with his lil cd case. and people look. then comes in Vinyl jock with his record case. Everyone says oh great the DJs here :D <>
i think that if u truly want to get into this....which u already have stated...then go with Vinyl. Your not going to be sorry. :cool:
oh by they way (so i dont get flamed) I own 4 turntables and a CD Deck so I know what im talkin bout.
1200's 4 Life :cool: |
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| BANDIT |
yeah I noticed the majority of the dj are into vinyl
you have some good points there but how much to vinyls go for ????
Canadian or Us fund???????
what companies do you recommend for mixers and what are some good mixers that you recommend???
what companies for tt's or cd decks????
Give me some models like average quality ones not too expensive I'm still in school I don't have too much spare cash.
Please specify what funds you are mentioning Canadian or US...
Thanx |
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| inatrance |
| audiolines.com is based in chicago illinois, (central USA) just for the record ( no pun inteneded) haha:p I got nothing against vinyl, I think its all good, but I just cant stand people who say cds suck.. etc, I think dj's shoudldnt just go around dissing each other sayin their gear is better.. its like a big family, we all shouldnt hate each other :) cds - vinyl, its all just somebodys choice. |
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| quddha |
I've tried vinyl, cds, and mp3's..
to say that any of these doesn't require skill is ignorant. except maybe using auto-bpm match when mixing mp3's, but even then it still takes SOME mixing knowledge to drop the beat at the right time and in the right place...
in some ways, vinyl is easier than cd's, i guess they just require DIFFERENT skills..
Anyways, I have invested my money in the vinyl route, only because of access to new songs. I can go into a record store, or browse online, and get new songs easier on vinyl than on cd or mp3.
but that's only because the ontario government was kind enough to give me $9600 OSAP loan, and UofT an extra $450 grant.. otherwise i wouldn't be able to afford it. :D
But respect to ppl who mix with whatever, cuz its all about the music. |
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| trintiy |
Quddah, You should look up the meaning of ignorant: 1 a : destitute of knowledge or education; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence.
If you would have read my post completely, you would have noticed that I've dj'ed with CDs mixers before and on numerous occasions, so what I said was not an ignorant statement, it was just an opinion that is different to yours! And as I've stated already the true art behing djing is queueing, i.e "being able to drop the 1st beat of the 1st bar on the 1st beat of the 1st bar of the song your mixing into. This is the skill involved in Djing as most of you who dj with vinyl know already, if you push to hard you jump over the first beat, to soft you lag behing. In cd mixing it's an instant start-up cue. There is some skill involved in using the pitch controls on either Turntable or Cds to beat-match a song but not as much as people make it out to be, that is simply training your ear to distinguish which song is playing fast or slow and making minor adjustments.
Droping the beat at the right time in the bars so songs tend to flow without interuption is not skill, that's all down to talent and understanding how sounds relate to one another, and IMO is something you really can't teach. Talent is either something you have or you don't. |
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| Pjotr G |
| quote: | Originally posted by trintiy
If you would have read my post completely, you would have noticed that I've dj'ed with CDs mixers before and on numerous occasions, so what I said was not an ignorant statement, it was just an opinion that is different to yours! And as I've stated already the true art behing djing is queueing, i.e "being able to drop the 1st beat of the 1st bar on the 1st beat of the 1st bar of the song your mixing into. This is the skill involved in Djing as most of you who dj with vinyl know already, if you push to hard you jump over the first beat, to soft you lag behing. In cd mixing it's an instant start-up cue. There is some skill involved in using the pitch controls on either Turntable or Cds to beat-match a song but not as much as people make it out to be, that is simply training your ear to distinguish which song is playing fast or slow and making minor adjustments.
Droping the beat at the right time in the bars so songs tend to flow without interuption is not skill, that's all down to talent and understanding how sounds relate to one another, and IMO is something you really can't teach. Talent is either something you have or you don't. |
Well have to disagree with ya on that one. I don't know any DJ who puts the crossfader in the middle and then gives the incoming record a push. No, you drop it on the beat in your headphone. And then it rarely is exactly on the beat, so you either give it some pushes or hold it back a little until it is actually on the beat, and then you can start your actual mix. CD mixing still requires beatmatching skill. Anyways I LOVE vinyl no CD-decks could EVER replace that for me, I don't really care what does it for any of you. :cool: |
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| trintiy |
| I never made any reference to a crossfader. And it is defenitly possible to drop the first beat perfect everytime. I've been to 2 dj schools. The Point blank Dj course in London and the Technics academy in Birmingham. Both concentrate on queueing and how to drop the beat perfect everytime. Once you get this pattern down like a machine the rest is simple. |
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| inatrance |
| trnity.. calm down, why dont you stop fighting with yourself ;) |
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| DJ_Shockwav |
i never said CDJ's sucked... i totally agree with the fact that it does take skill to mix CD's, different skills, but still skill... i'm just saying to bandit that if he wants in for the long haul and this is not just a phase, then go with vinyl... now as for TTs... i can remember who posted this, but he/she said that if you're going the route of vinyl, then buy your vinyl and save up for the tech 1200's, cause if you wind up paying for a 'cheaper' deck, you just keep buying vinyl (and don't say you won't, it's like crack, you need it) you'll just keep spending your cash on vinyl and not saving up for the tech 12's when you grow tired of your 'cheaper' decks
as for a mixer... EQ for each channel, and heaphone cueing slectivity are the main things you want to look for... go to a local store and check a few out, you can most likely ask to try them out as well... see what suits you...
one last thing... never give up |
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| BANDIT |
| How much do vinyl records go for (full or signles)...each?????? |
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| quddha |
| quote: | Originally posted by BANDIT
How much do vinyl records go for (full or signles)...each?????? |
around $15 canadian each. plus tax. expensive man, i know...
there are some better deals on the internet, that i will take advantage of with my new credit card, but you hafta pay shipping. |
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