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the demographic challenge to the "Jewish" state (pg. 2)
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
The should just force the Jews in Israel and the Arab/Palestinians in Israel to interbreed, then they cant bitch. |
Yea, way to understand the issue:rolleyes: |
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| ProDiGaL |
| quote: | | The should just force the Jews in Israel and the Arab/Palestinians in Israel to interbreed, then they cant bitch. |
I heard there was a porn floating around with a jew and palestinian making love, lovely piece of symbolism I thought. |
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| Dunya |
| The palestinian birth-rate tactic :rolleyes: |
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| Goashem |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Isreal is welaware of the demographics of the situation which is why the situation is the way it is. Unfortunately, Isreal is choosing the latter to approach this.
I did a google search for the definition of enthnic cleansing not cuase I don't know what the term means but just to make a point. |
so whos doing the ethnic cleansing ? |
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| Goashem |
and yoepus does make a good point about the demographic transition.
the arab population maybe in phase 2 or 3. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Goashem
so whos doing the ethnic cleansing ? |
Israel. They don't have to officialy state it in their policy to actually do it. |
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| Goashem |
:rolleyes:
i think you should read those definitions again and apply them to the situation in israel. |
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| zig |
Israel's citizenship law discriminates
April 12, 2005
Am Johal
On Monday, April 4th, the Israeli Ministers of Interior and Justice, the National Security Advisor and the Head of the Security Service met in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to discuss the renewal of the Citizenship Law.
The "Nationality and Entry into Israel Law" known as the Citizenship and Family Unification Law denies Israeli citizenship or residency status to the spouses of the Israeli citizens who are residents of the West Bank or Gaza.
"This law will be guided by demographic considerations meant to ensure a solid Jewish majority for years to come," said Prime Minister Ariel Sharon during the meeting. "There is no need to hide behind security arguments. There is a need for the existence of a Jewish state."
Lawyer Alhan Nahas Daoud of the Mossawa Center, the Advocacy Center for Arab Citizens of Israel says, "The Sharon government is implementing a racist, demographic strategy that ignores the rights of Arab children, women, men and families who are also citizens of Israel." The Israeli government plans to renew the legislation in mid-May.
Human rights organizations such as Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and FIDH have previously criticized the legislation. The UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, descent and national or ethnic origin.
The European Commission in 2004, in response to a question asked by MP Daniel Cohn-Bendit to the European Parliament, said in a statement, "In the Commission's view, this order raises issues of concern in relation to potential discrimination in the highly sensitive area of family rights." The US State Departments Human Rights Report for 2004 also expressed concerns with the law.
Over 100,000 Palestinians have received Israeli citizenship since the Oslo Accords were signed. Only twenty of these people have been engaged in acts of violence. Human rights organizations view this law as a form of collective punishment. 20,000 people are affected by this legislation and currently have their citizenship applications being upheld.
Despite overtures of peace since the death of Yasser Arafat, the Sharon government has continued to implement their plan to expand settlements in the West Bank and pass discriminatory legislation. If the international community including the US, the EU and the United Nations do not raise concerns and are not effective in persuading Israel to not proceed with the legislation, it will only serve to encourage the Israeli government to continue to implement discriminatory legislation based on demographic considerations.
To write into law a system of inequality of your citizens is to betray very basic notions of what democracies are based upon. The Separation Wall is only the physical manifestation of a series of initiatives designed to separate the Israelis from the Palestinians both within Israel and the Occupied Territories.
Those who are pushing the demographic argument are walking a fine line and will only bolster the extreme right who openly support the ethnic transfer of Israel's Arab citizens. If the international community does not intervene at the diplomatic level in this situation, it will only encourage the Sharon government to continue to pass legislation which will enshrine inequality both in to law and into its implementation.
Welcome to the Roadmap to Peace. |
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| zig |
The 'Demographic Nightmare' - Israel Freezes Family Reunification Process for Palestinian Citizens
BADIL Resource Center
Addressing Obstacles to the Right of Return for Palestinian Refugees
One week ago the Israeli government retroactively approved a decision by the Interior Ministry to freeze all applications for family reunification between Palestinian citizens of Israel and Palestinian residents of the 1967 occupied Palestinian territories to prevent the latter from acquiring Israeli citizenship. According to Interior Ministry figures, more than 22,000 family reunification applications had been approved since 1993.
Israeli officials argue that the growth in the non-Jewish population of Israel over the last decade due to family reunification (not to mention the large number of non-Jewish immigrants) is a threat to the 'Jewish character' of the state - i.e., a Jewish demographic majority and Jewish control of the land including land confiscated from Palestinian refugees (Ha'aretz, 1/5/02). Interior Minister Eli Yishai further believes that Palestinian family reunification "is a devious way of getting Arab refugees to return to Israel." (Ha'aretz, 1/9/02)
The freeze is to continue until new legislation is prepared that will significantly reduce the number of Palestinians eligible for family reunification. Potential changes to the law being considered by the Israeli government include longer waiting periods, barring persons who received legal status in Israel in the framework of a family reunification request from applying for family reunification for any other relative and revocation of family reunification for "anti-state activity", a broad term which could encompass legitimate opposition to discriminatory laws which define Israel as Jewish state.
Addressing Obstacles to the Right of Return
Israel's recent decision to freeze all applications for family reunification between Palestinian citizens of Israel and Palestinian residents of the 1967 occupied territories is only one of the latest in a number of discriminatory legal obstacles that aim to prevent Palestinian refugees from exercising their basic human right to return to their homes and villages of origin inside Israel.
Following the mass displacement/expulsion of the indigenous Palestinian Arab population in 1948, Israel adopted discriminatory, nationality, citizenship and residency laws that effectively denationalized Palestinian refugees and prevented them from returning to their places of origin. On the one hand, any Jew can acquire automatic citizenship and residency, based on the notion of 'historical residence,' under the 1950 Law of Return. On the other hand, the indigenous Palestinian Arab population must be able to prove under the 1952 Nationality Law that they were in the state of Israel on or after 14 July 1952, or the offspring of a Palestinian who meets this condition. Due to the fact that most Palestinian refugees were displaced outside the borders of the state of Israel on or after 14 July 1952, they are unable to resume domicile in their homeland.
The adoption of laws with discriminatory intent or effect in the context of ongoing hostilities or by newly emergent states following the cessation of hostilities often prevents refugees from returning to their places of origin, constituting a form of illegal and compulsory transfer. These laws often include restrictions that link citizenship to domicile prior to a certain date, ethnic association, reasons for departure, and literacy in dominant language of the state. Refugees in the successor states for the former Soviet Union and the former Yugoslavia, for example, faced problems in returning home due to the emergence of new and often discriminatory citizenship and nationality requirements. The international community played a critical role in reform and repeal of discriminatory legislation in order to facilitate the return of refugees.
In the case of Israel, numerous UN human rights committees that monitor state compliance with international human rights conventions have consistently identified Israel's citizenship and nationality laws as discriminatory and inconsistent with international law. In 1998, for example, the Committee on Social, Economic, and Cultural Rights concluded that Israel's Law of Return "discriminates against Palestinians in the diaspora upon whom the Government of Israel has imposed restrictive requirements that make it almost impossible to return to their land of birth." The Committee recommended that Israel review "re-entry policies for Palestinians who wish to re-establish domicile in their homeland, with a view to bring such policies to a level comparable to the Law of Return as applied to Jews." In August 2001, the Committee reiterated its concern that the Law of Return "denies indigenous Palestinian refugees the right to return to their homes and properties."
Reform and repeal of Israel's citizenship and nationality laws, including discriminatory provisions related to family reunification, to bring them into compliance with international law is one of the first steps towards a durable solution for Palestinian refugees. Analysis of existing laws and drafting of alternative legislation need not wait a return to negotiations. |
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| malek |
it is true orthodox jews breed alot, but many of the children decide not to live like their parents and become secular (...less kids).
if Orthodox jews were such a factor, they would've been the majority in Israel a long time ago. |
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| George Smiley |
Just thought I'd blow the cobwebs of this thread as got emailed an interesting article this week regarding demography in Israel and the article had this to say...
| quote: | | On May 11, 2005, the eve of Israel's independence day, the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics published the country's demographic profile, as it does every year on this occasion. According to these data the fertility of an Arab woman in Israel is 2.5 times that of a Jewish woman. Arabs currently constitute some 20 percent of the citizens of Israel. This means that within a few decades, if there is no dramatic change in the reproductive patterns of Arabs and Jews in Israel, the Arab citizens of Israel will draw equal in number with the Jews, thereby bringing about the end of the Jewish state. |
Obviously this fails to take into account immigration (or at least I assume so as it doesn't mention it) but even so, there is only a limitted supply of immigrants in the world and Israel isn't exactly the most desirable place to live right now. The birth rate however, is unlimitted...
http://www.bitterlemons.org/issue/isr2.php |
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| metalgearsolid |
| ahh the jews tey so wierd u no u would think that they a peaceful bunch since they eat all that turkey:rolleyes: :eek: |
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