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Morphing Sounds
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| messytechie |
I've been told this is possible and I was wondering if it can actually be done.
The principle is this: I am making a track that contains both "real" orchestral instruments and synthesised instruments. I want make a big string chord change into a big synth chord. I've tried fading but that simply isnt good enough. I've been speaking to a few people and they've said it is possible to "morph" a sound into another one but don't know how (bloody useless lecturers).
I've currently been experimenting using Waves Morphoder - which as I discovered, is actually a vocoder. I've been mixing a vocoded "morph" of the two sounds whilst fading out and in the two sounds respectively. Its ok but I still want it to sound more morphy. Like on TV when one image just morphs into another image.... I want it just like that but with sound.
I was wondering if anyone has ever tried this before, knows of any way it might be done, or has any ideas on the subject.
What I've done so far can be found here
http://www.geocities.com/phatboyphil1210/Morphtest.mp3
Cheers.
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| Nick Mimas |
Kyma :D
Sorry but so far that's been the only program ('course it's not just an audio morphing suite, it's a full production engine) I knew of that could do really nice professional morphing. I'll investigate furhter, seems like a real interesting skill to have bro'.
http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bi...ucts/SoundClips
...sixth one down. |
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| RIPassion |
| Wow I was just the idea of morphing (that's actually the name I gave it, heh) the other day! Please let us know if you have any luck... I'm interested. :) |
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| Limit |
| You could probably set this up in sampler like Halion or Kontakt...I've never tried it myself but I'm sure there is routing possiblities that will enableyou to set teh mod wheel to go from sound to sound...I think this is possible in Halion but maybe not in Kontakt. Look into it..I'm sure its possible. There are synths that do this like The Waldorf Q...it has a function called XPOHORM and enables you, by use of the mod wheel, to morph between to patches. |
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| RiCo |
| Since the Yamaha AN1x can do that, I'll read the manual and see what happens inside the synthesizer in order to morph the sounds. I know that you can either use the mod wheel or the ribbon controller to morph from one scene to the other...it uses two patches altogether or you have the choice to use them individually and shift with your finger. Damn, I haven't used the synth's engine since I bought it....I'ma play now with it. :) |
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| Trancevision |
morphing can be achieved by instant manipulation of multiple parameters on a synth
on the nordlead for example you can assign Cutoff, Fm modulation, ADSR, Lfo and lots of other stoff to modwheel and to velocity which makes it possible to have
extreme manipulations -->morphing.
This works too on the YAmaha AN200 I believe...
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| Dickie-T |
| wtf man u need camel audio camelion, its a pro vst synth which allows you to morph between presets using a matrix... also check some vst synths by virsyn (virsyn cube, virsyn tera) |
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| messytechie |
Cheers for all the replies guys
I have thought about automating all the changes on a synth to morph the sound, but the thing is with the piece i'm writing it's quite important to have realistic sounding strings. Currently I'm using the Edirol Orchestra which sounds pretty amazing, and I was hoping to use this in the final thing. I also want as morphing between different instruments...so morphing audio is kinda more the thing I want to do.... unless I use a synth that can do realistic "real" instruments as well as wikid synths? (any suggestions? pref soft as I don't have much (any) gear)
Am def gonna investigate the synth route...
About Halion or Kontakt, I've never used either. Does anyone who knows more about them know if they can do this morphing like Limit suggested?
Hearing how the Yamaha AN1x does it would be much appreciated.
Will also check out those soft synths, cheers Dickie me' old mukka.
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| messytechie |
| Just downloaded the demos of those synths Dickie recommended, they definately seem to be in the right zone, especially cube.... but they're all so complicated! it's gonna take me a week to work out how to use them. |
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| Dickie-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by messytechie
Just downloaded the demos of those synths Dickie recommended, they definately seem to be in the right zone, especially cube.... but they're all so complicated! it's gonna take me a week to work out how to use them. |
yeah those are difficult as hell! good thing cameleon has tons of randomization functions |
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| dr.fixus |
| i think all you need is Prosoniq Morph... |
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